Is there a way to make the fragment shader pass through another fragment shader before it is drawn? As in the following example:
Consider that I want to draw a scene but only inside a shape, I can check in the shader
if the TexCoords of the fragment are inside the shape I want.
Pass 1: Bind post processing shader
Pass 2: Draw se scene
Pass 3: Bind default or disable post processing shader
Drawing without post processing shader
Drawing with post processing shader
I'm aware of the framebuffer, and it works, but it goes through a process of rendering the whole screen, and that can cost me performance in the future, especially considering that this post processing shader will be turned on, off and reset several times during the rendering of a frame
OpenGL does not recognize the idea of chaining shader stages in the manner you suggest. During any particular rendering operation, there is exactly one fragment shader active. Period.
Of course, OpenGL also does not care where your shader strings come from. It doesn't care if there's a single file on a disk with that text in it or not. All it cares about is that you pass text corresponding to valid GLSL to glShaderSource.
So if you like, you can manufacture a single shader from multiple conceptual "shaders". This can be as simple as just concatenating a bunch of file strings together (which glShaderSource can do for you, since it takes multiple strings), or it can be a complex operation where you recognize certain variables as interface variables and carefully synthesize a main function from these disparate pieces.
How you go about doing that is ultimately up to you.
Alternatively, you can take an "ubershader" approach. That is, put all of the possible post-processing stuff in one shader, and use uniform variables to tell whether or not a particular post-processing step is currently active.
Write a shader that does both things: calculates the colour, and discards the fragment if it's outside a certain shape. Render the scene with that shader.
Perhaps if you want to avoid wasting time processing pixels outside the shape, you can set the "scissor rectangle" to the bounding box of your shape, so OpenGL won't even run the shader for pixels outside that box.
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EDIT:
My question was unclear at first, I'll try to rephrase it:
How do I use different shaders to do different rendering operations on the same mesh polygons? For example, I want to add lighting using one shader and add fog using another shader. I need to use the color interpolated from the first shader in the calculation of the second shader, but I don't know how to do it if I can't (or rather not supposed to) pass around the color buffer between shaders.
Also (and that was where my question started), I need the same world-view-projection calculations for both shaders, so am I supposed to calculate it in every shader seperatly? Am I supposed to use one big shader for all my rendering operations?
Original question:
Say I have two different shader programs. The first one calculates the vertex positions in the vertex shader and does some operations in the fragment shader.
Let's say I want to use the fragment shader to do different calculations, but I still want to use the same vertex positions calculated by the first vertex shader. Do I have to calculate the vertex positions again or is there a way to share state between different shader programs?
you got more options:
multi pass
this one usually render the geometry into depth and "color" buffer first and then in next passes uses that as input textures for rendering single rectangle covering whole screen/view. Deferred shading is an example of this but there are many other implementations of effects that are not Deferred shading related. Here an example of multi pass:
How can I render an 'atmosphere' over a rendering of the Earth in Three.js?
In first pass the planets and stars and stuff is rendered, in second the atmosphere is added.
You can combine the passes either by blending or direct rendering. The direct rendering requires that you render to texture each pass and render in the last one. Blending is changing the color of the output in each pass.
single pass
what you describe is more like you should encode the different shaders as a functions for single fragment shader... Yes you can combine more shaders into single one if they are compatible and combine their results to final output color.
Big shader is a performance hit but I think it would be still faster than having multiple passes doing the same.
Take a look at this example:
Normal mapping gone horribly wrong
this one computes enviromental reflection, lighting, geometry color and combines them together to single output color.
Exotic shaders
There are also exotic shaders that go around the pipeline limitations like this one:
Reflection and refraction impossible without recursive ray tracing?
Which are used for stuff that is believed to be not possible to implement in GL/GLSL pipeline. Anyway If the limitations are too binding you can still use compute shader...
Can I access and change output values of another Fragment at a certain location in the Fragmentshader?
For example in the main() loop I process everything just like usualy and output the color with some value. But in adition to that I also want the fragment at position vec3(5,3,6) (in world coordinates) to have the same colour.
Now I already did some researche on the web on that. The OpenGL site says, the fragmentshader has one fragment as input and has one fragment as output, which doesnt sound very promising.
Also I know that all fragments are being processed in parallel. But maybe it is posible to say, if the fragment at this position has not been processed yet, write this color to it and take this fragment as already processed.
My be someone can explain if this is posible somehow and if not, why this is not a good idea. The best guess I would have is, to build this logic into the shader, it would have a very bad effect on the general performance.
My be someone can explain if this is posible somehow and if not, why this is not a good idea.
It's not a question of bad idea vs. good idea. It's simply not possible.
The closest you can get to this functionality is ARB_fragment_shader_interlock. Through its interlock and ordering guarantees, it allows limited interoperation. And that limitation is... it only allows interoperation for fragments that cover the same pixel/sample.
So even this functionality does not allow you to write to some other pixel.
The absolute best you can do is use SSBOs and atomic counters to have fragment shaders write what color values and "world coordinates" they would like to write to, then have a second process execute that buffer as either a rendering command or a compute shader to actually write that data.
As already pointed out in Nicol's answer, you can't write to additional fragments of a framebuffer surface in the fragment shader.
The description of your use case is not clear enough to tell what might work best. In the interest of brainstorming, the most direct approach that comes to mind is that you don't use a framebuffer draw surface at all, but output to an image instead.
If you bind a texture as an image, you can write to it in the fragment shader using the imageStore() built-in function. This function takes coordinates as one of the argument, so you can write to any pixel you want, as well as write multiple pixels from the same shader invocation.
Depending on what exactly you want to achieve, I could also imagine a hybrid approach, where your primary rendering still goes to a framebuffer, but you write additional pixel values to an image at the desired positions. Then, in a second rendering pass, you can combine the content of the image with the primary rendering. The combination could be done with blending if the math/logic is simple enough. If you need a more complex combination, you can use a texture as the framebuffer attachment of the initial pass, and then use the result of the rendering and the extra image as two inputs for the fragment shader of the combination pass.
I am trying to learn tessellation shaders in openGL 4.1. I understood most of the things. I have one question.
What is gl_InvocationID?
Can any body please explain in some easy way?
gl_InvocationID has two current uses, but it represents the same concept in both.
In Geometry Shaders, you can have GL run your geometry shader multiple times per-primitive. This is useful in scenarios where you want to draw the same thing from several perspectives. Each time the shader runs on the same set of data, gl_InvocationID is incremented.
The common theme between Geometry and Tessellation Shaders is that each invocation shares the same input data. A Tessellation Control Shader can read every single vertex in the input patch primitive, and you actually need gl_InvocationID to make sense of which data point you are supposed to be processing.
This is why you generally see Tessellation Control Shaders written something like this:
gl_out [gl_InvocationID].gl_Position = gl_in [gl_InvocationID].gl_Position;
gl_in and gl_out are potentially very large arrays in Tessellation Control Shaders (equal in size to GL_PATCH_VERTICES), and you have to know which vertex you are interested in.
Also, keep in mind that you are not allowed to write to any index other than gl_out [gl_InvocationID] from a Tessellation Control Shader. That property keeps invoking Tessellation Control Shaders in parallel sane (it avoids order dependencies and prevents overwriting data that a different invocation already wrote).
I'm working on a small engine in OpenTK right now, and I've got shaders working so far. I wonder though , how it is possible to apply a shader to an entire scene!?. I've seen this done in minecraft for example, where someone created a shader that warped the entire scene. But since every object is rendered with its own shader active, how would I achieve this?
You seem to be referring to a technique called post processing. The way it works is that you first render the entire scene to a texture using the shaders you already have. You can then render this texture to the screen using a fragment shader to apply various effects like motion blur, warping or depth of field.
"But since every object is rendered with its own shader active"
That's not how OpenGL works. In fact there's no such thing as "models" (what you probably mean by "object") in OpenGL. OpenGL draws primitives (points, lines and triangles) one at a time. Furthermore there's no hard association between a set of primitives and the shaders being used.
It's trivial to just bind a single shader program at the beginning of a batch and every primitive of that batch is subjected to this shader. If the batch consists of the whole scene, then the whole scene uses that shader.
AFAIK, you can only bind one vertex shader at a time.
What you may want to try is to render to a texture first then rerender the texture onto the screen but applying some changes to it (warping it for example). You can also extract the depth buffer and use it if you have a more complex change that you want to apply.
If you bind the shader you want before the render loop, it would effect all items until you un-bind it (i.e. binding id #0) or disable GL_TEXTURE_2D via glEnable()/glDisable().
I'm having a little bit of trouble conceptualizing the workflow used in a shader-based OpenGL program. While I've never really done any major projects using either the fixed-function or shader-based pipelines, I've started learning and experimenting, and it's become quite clear to me that shaders are the way to go.
However, the fixed-function pipeline makes much more sense to me from an intuitive perspective. Rendering a scene with that method is simple and procedural—like painting a picture. If I want to draw a box, I tell the graphics card to draw a box. If I want a lot of boxes, I draw my box in a loop. The fixed-function pipeline fits well with my established programming tendencies.
These all seem to go out the window with shaders, and this is where I'm hitting a block. A lot of shader-based tutorials show how to, for example, draw a triangle or a cube on the screen, which works fine. However, they don't seem to go into at all how I would apply these concepts in, for example, a game. If I wanted to draw three procedurally generated triangles, would I need three shaders? Obviously not, since that would be infeasible. Still, it's clearly not as simple as just sticking the drawing code in a loop that runs three times.
Therefore, I'm wondering what the "best practices" are for using shaders in game development environments. How many shaders should I have for a simple game? How do I switch between them and use them to render a real scene?
I'm not looking for specifics, just a general understanding. For example, if I had a shader that rendered a circle, how would I reuse that shader to draw different sized circles at different points on the screen? If I want each circle to be a different color, how can I pass some information to the fragment shader for each individual circle?
There is really no conceptual difference between the fixed-function pipeline and the programmable pipeline. The only thing shaders introduce is the ability to program certain stages of the pipeline.
On current hardware you have (for the most part) control over the vertex, primitive assembly, tessellation and fragment stages. Some operations that occur inbetween and after these stages are still fixed-function, such as depth/stencil testing, blending, perspective divide, etc.
Because shaders are actually nothing more than programs that you drop-in to define the input and output of a particular stage, you should think of input to a fragment shader as coming from the output of one of the previous stages. Vertex outputs are interpolated during rasterization and these are often what you're dealing with when you have an in variable in a fragment shader.
You can also have program-wide variables, known as uniforms. These variables can be accessed by any stage simply by using the same name in each stage. They do not vary across invocations of a shader, hence the name uniform.
Now you should have enough information to figure out this circle example... you can use a uniform to scale your circle (likely a simple scaling matrix) and you can either rely on per-vertex color or a uniform that defines the color.
You don't have shaders that draws circles (ok, you may with the right tricks, but's let's forget it for now, because it is misleading and has very rare and specific uses). Shaders are little programs you write to take care of certain stages of the graphic pipeline, and are more specific than "drawing a circle".
Generally speaking, every time you make a draw call, you have to tell openGL which shaders to use ( with a call to glUseProgram You have to use at least a Vertex Shader and a Fragment Shader. The resulting pipeline will be something like
Vertex Shader: the code that is going to be executed for each of the vertices you are going to send to openGL. It will be executed for each indices you sent in the element array, and it will use as input data the correspnding vertex attributes, such as the vertex position, its normal, its uv coordinates, maybe its tangent (if you are doing normal mapping), or whatever you are sending to it. Generally you want to do your geometric calculations here. You can also access uniform variables you set up for your draw call, which are global variables whic are not goin to change per vertex. A typical uniform variable you might watn to use in a vertex shader is the PVM matrix. If you don't use tessellation, the vertex shader will be writing gl_Position, the position which the rasterizer is going to use to create fragments. You can also have the vertex outputs different things (as the uv coordinates, and the normals after you have dealt with thieri geometry), give them to the rasterizer an use them later.
Rasterization
Fragment Shader: the code that is going to be executed for each fragment (for each pixel if that is more clear). Generally you do here texture sampling and light calculation. You will use the data coming from the vertex shader and the rasterizer, such as the normals (to evaluate diffuse and specular terms) and the uv coordinates (to fetch the right colors form the textures). The texture are going to be uniform, and probably also the parameters of the lights you are evaluating.
Depth Test, Stencil Test. (which you can move before the fragment shader with the early fragments optimization ( http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Early_Fragment_Test )
Blending.
I suggest you to look at this nice program to develop simple shaders http://sourceforge.net/projects/quickshader/ , which has very good examples, also of some more advanced things you won't find on every tutorial.