ModelForm Instance vs Initial - django

Question

I'm super new to Django, so bare with me. I'm trying to write a simple CRUD, using modelforms. In the update view, the form object initialization takes the arguments initial and instance, which confuses me. From django doc:
"As with regular forms, it’s possible to specify initial data for forms by specifying an initial parameter when instantiating the form. Initial values provided this way will override both initial values from the form field and values from an attached model instance."
Which confuses even more. I know my question isn't specific, but if someone could explain this and honestly, the background connection between the model and modelforms I would really appreciate it. Thanks y'all

Answer 1

Here is the example from Django docs;
from django.db import models
from django.forms import ModelForm
TITLE_CHOICES = [
('MR', 'Mr.'),
('MRS', 'Mrs.'),
('MS', 'Ms.'),
]
class Author(models.Model):
name = models.CharField(max_length=100)
title = models.CharField(max_length=3, choices=TITLE_CHOICES)
birth_date = models.DateField(blank=True, null=True)
def __str__(self):
return self.name
class AuthorForm(ModelForm):
class Meta:
model = Author
fields = ['name', 'title', 'birth_date']
Your form -AuthorForm has information that name is string and it can't be greater than 100 characters. Because it's in your model -Author. Same for title and birth_date. title can't be greater than 3 characters and it must be one of the MR, MRS or MS.
You don't have to specify types, rules for form fields if you use model forms. Model forms can create forms quickly from your model and makes validations based on your model.
Let's assume you have an author instance which has name is Joe.
If you print author.name, it returns Joe.
form = AuthorForm(initial={'name': 'Patrick'}, instance=author)
If you print form['name'].value(), it returns Patrick, not Joe. It ignores author's name value. You overrided it in your form. It could be Joe if you didn't pass initial parameter.