Can the following CFG be converted to a Regex ?
Someone said that this could be it regex: (ab* a + b)*
is this true and why? I cant seem to understand it
It's not a regular language.
Consider the subset of the language with exactly one b. (In other words, the intersection of the language with a*ba*.) If the language were regular, that subset would also be regular, since it would be the intersection of two regular languages.
But it's not regular, since it consists of strings in which the number of as following the b is at least as large as the number of as preceding the b, and that is not a regular language ("regular languages can't count").
Related
1xxx captures x
2xxx captures xx
3xxx captures xxx
I thought maybe this simple pattern would work:
(\d)(.{\1})
But no.
I know this is easy in Perl, but I'm using PCRE in Julia which means it would be hard to embed code to change the expression on-the-fly.
Note that regular expressions are usually compiled to a state machine before being executed, and are not naively interpreted.
Technically, n Xn (where n is a number and X a rule containing all characters) isn't a regular language. It isn't a context-free language, and isn't even a context-sensitive language! (See the Chomsky Hierarchy). While PCRE regexes can match all all context-free languages (if expressed suitably), the engine can only match a very limited subset of context-sensitive languages. We have a big problem on our hand that can neither be solved by regular expressions nor regexes with all the PCRE extensions.
The solution here usually is to separate tokenization, parsing, and semantic validation when trying to parse some input. Here:
read the number (possibly using a regex)
read the following characters (possibly using a regex)
validate that the length of the character string is equal to the given number.
Obviously this isn't going to work in this specific case without implementing backtracking or similar strategies, so we will have to write a parser ourselves that can handle the input:
read the number (possibly using a regex)
then read that number of characters at that position (possibly using a substr-like function).
Regexes are awesome, but they are simply not the correct tool for every problem. Sometimes, writing the program yourself is easier.
It can't be done in general. For the particular example you gave, you can use the following:
1.{1}|2.{2}|3.{3}
If you have a long but fix list of numbers, you can generate the pattern programmatically.
Specifically, I noticed that the language of regular expressions itself isn't regular. So, I can't use a regular expression to parse a given regular expression. I need to use a parser since the language of the regular expression itself is context free.
Is there any way regular expressions can be represented in a way that the resulting string can be parsed using a regular expression?
Note: My question isn't about whether there is a regexp to match the current syntax of regexes, but whether there exists a "representation" for regular expressions as we know it today (maybe not a neat as what we know them as today) that can be parsed using regular expressions. Also, please could someone remove the dup since it isn't a dup. I'm asking something completely different. I already know that the current language of regular expressions isn't regular (it is how I started my original question).
Depending on what you mean by "represent", the answer is "yes" or "no":
If you want a language that (homomorphically) maps 1:1 to the usual basic regular expression language, the answer is no, because a regular language cannot be isomorphic to a non-regular language, and the standard regular expression language is non-regular. This is because the syntax requires matching opening and closing parentheses of arbitrary depth.
If "represent" only means another method of specifying regular languages, the answer is yes, and right now I can think of at least three ways to achieve this:
The "dumbest" and easiest way is to define some surjective mapping f : ℕ -> RegEx from the natural numbers onto the set of all valid standard regular expressions. You can define the natural numbers using the regular expression 0|1[01]*, and the regular language denoted by a (string representing the) natural number n is the regular language denoted by f(n).
Of course, the meaning attached to a natural number would not be obvious to a human reader at all, so this "regular expression language" would be utterly useless.
As parentheses are the only non-regular part in simple regular expressions, the easiest human-interpretable method would be to extend the standard simple regular expression syntax to allow dangling parentheses and defining semantics for dangling parentheses.
The obvious choice would be to ignore non-matching opening parentheses and interpreting non-matching closing parentheses as matching the beginning of the regex. This essentially amounts to implicitly inserting as many opening parentheses at the beginning and as many closing parentheses at the end of the regex as necessary. Additionally, (* would have to be interpreted as repetition of the empty string. If I didn't miss anything, this definition should turn any string into a "regular expression" with a specified meaning, so .* defines this "regular expression language".
This variant even has the same abstract syntax as standard regular expressions.
Another variant would be to specify the NFA that recognizes the language directly using a regular language, e.g.: ([a-z]+,([^,]|\\,|\\\\)+,[a-z]+\$?;)*.
The idea is that [a-z]+ is used as a label for states, and the expression is a list of transition triples (s, c, t) from source state s to target state t consuming character c, and a $ indicating accepting transitions (cf. note below). In c, backslashes are used to escape commas or backslashes - I assumed that you use the same alphabet for standard regular expressions, but of course you can replace the middle component with any other regular language of symbols denotating characters of any alphabet you wish.
The first source state mentioned is the (single) initial state. An empty expression defines the empty language.
Above, I wrote "accepting transition", not "accepting state" because that would make the regex above a bit more complex. You can interpret a triple containing a $ as two transitions, namely one transition consuming c from s to a new, unique state, and an ε-transition from that state to t. This should allow any NFA to be represented, by replacing each transition to an accepting state with a $ triple and each transition to a non-accepting state with a non-$ triple.
One note that might make the "yes" part look more intuitive: Assembly languages are regular, and those are even Turing-complete, so it would be unexpected if it wasn't possible to specify "mere" regular languages using a regular language.
The answer is probably NO.
As you have pointed out, set of all possible regular expressions itself is not a regular set. Any TRUE regular expression (not those extended) can be converted into finite automata (FA). If regular expression can be represented in a form that can be parsed by itself, then FA can be parsed by regular expression as well.
But that's not possible as far as I know. RE itself can be reduced into three basic operation(According to the Dragon Book):
concatenation: e.g. ab
alternation: e.g. a|b
kleen closure: e.g. a*
The kleen closure can match infinite number of characters, but it cannot know how many characters to match.
Just think such case: you want to match 3 consecutive as. Then the corresponding regular expression is /aaa/. But what if you want match 4, 5, 6... as? Parser with only one RE cannot know the exact number of as. So it fails to give the right matching to arbitrary expressions. However, the RE parser has to match infinite different forms of REs. According to your expression, a regular expression cannot match all the possibilities.
Well, the only difference of a RE parser is that it does not need a tokenizer.(probably that's why RE is used in lexical analysis) Every character in RE is a token (excluding those escape charcters). But to parse RE, whatever it is converted,one has to face up with NFA/DFA/TREE... all equivalent structures that cannot be parsed by RE itself.
I was trying to write a pattern which doesn't contain binary string (let's assume 101). I know that such expressions cannot be written using Regular Expression considering http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language.
I tried writing the pattern for the above problem using Regular Expression though and it seems to be working.
\b(?!101)\w+\b
What I wanted to ask is that can a regular expression be written for my problem and why? And if yes, then is my regular expression correct?
To match a whole string that doesn't contain 101:
^(?!.*101).*$
Look-ahead are indeed an easy way to check a condition on a string through regex, but your regex will only match alphanumeric words that do not start with 101.
You wrote
I know that such expressions cannot be written using Regular
Expression considering http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language.
In that Wikipedia article, you seem to have missed the
Note that the "regular expression" features provided with many
programming languages are augmented with features that make them
capable of recognizing languages that can not be expressed by the
formal regular expressions (as formally defined below).
The negative lookahead construct is such a feature.
I'm trying to find out if its possible to have an example of a CFG for which it is impossible to give a Regular Expression which can accept the same language.
Any language which requires counting/remembering can't be expressed as a regular expression.
For example, a language which checks balanced parenthesis:
S -> { S } S
S -> ε
Since a regular machine/expression has only a limited (pre-defined) number of states, it cannot "remember" (infinitely) earlier parts of the input.
As such recognizing the following expression is impossible for a state-machine: anbn (n∈ℕ)
You could make such a machine for n ≤ x, where x∈ℕ, but no state-machine can do it for every possible value from ℕ.
Why repeated strings such as
[wcw|w is a string of a's and b's]
cannot be denoted by regular expressions?
pls. give me detailed answer as i m new to lexical analysis.
Thanks ...
Regular expressions in their original form describe regular languages/grammars. Those cannot contain nested structures as those languages can be described by a simple finite state machine. Simplified you can picture that as if each word of the language grows strictly from left to right (or right to left), where repeating structures have to be explicitly defined and are static.
What this means is, that no information whatsoever from previous states can be carried over to later states (a few characters further in the input). So if you have your symbol w you can't specify that the input must have exactly the same string w later in the sequence. Similarly you can't ensure that each opening paranthesis needs a closin paren as well (so regular expressions themselves are not even a regular language and thus cannot be described by regular expressions :-)).
In theoretical computer science we worked with a very restricted set of regex operators, basically only consisting of sequence, alternative (|) and repetition (*), everything else can be described with those operations.
However, usually regex engines allow grouping of certain sub-patterns into matches which can then be referenced or extracted later. Some engines even allow to use such a backreference in the search expression string itself, thereby allowing the expression to describe more than just a regular language. If I remember correctly such use of backreferences can even yield languages that are not context-free.
Additional pointers:
This StackOverflow question
Wikipedia
It can be, you just can't assure that it's the same string of "a"s and "b"s because there's no way to retain the information acquired in traversing the first half for use in traversing the second.