My question relates primarily to website design. As a novice programmer, I would like to have a tab in my flask website dedicated to serving real-time messages (likely using pika and a remote rabbitmq server). The reason for this is to serve the visitors real-time information without them having to refresh on the site.
I'm using Blueprints, and the reading i've done shows that the integration of flask-socketio and blueprints is far from elementary, so i'm wondering if there are easier options to push updates out to the end user. Should i create websockets directly? Is this easier in a flask blueprint environment? Should i use long polling? What might be the preferred route here?
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The new slack events api with slack events adapter (https://github.com/slackapi/python-slack-events-api) is definitely powerful and abstracts out a lot of unnecessary code including handling http retries and so on. Therefore, I am considering switching to the adapter model from the normal events api.
However, the adapter is a flask app on its own. My current event listener was a flask blueprint. I will therefore have to run 2 flask apps now to support the events adapter. Although, running 2 flask apps is possible, sharing data across the 2 apps becomes difficult and leads to unnecessary complication.
Therefore, I wanted to know from you guys, if there is an easy and elegant way to run multiple flask apps which use same configurations, need similar installations and share data and models across.
I figured it out. Its fairly straightforward. I just went through their github code and I can replicate the rest of the adapter code without starting the server which kinda resolves the problem.
I'm currently working on a project which would require some realtime functionalities such as Multi-user chatrooms etc.
Ideally, I’m looking to have meteor run the chat application(on a different port) and mongodb act as message broker to the django back-end which would take care of user registration , management and everything 'non-realtime' related.
This would involve setting up a reverse-proxy which would redirect to a different port based on the url (please let me know if i'm wrong in this)
Would this be possible(or even advisable)? Another option would be to implement the same with tornado. but I have no experience with building tornado-based apps and rather do this with a framework I’m comfortable with.
Thanks,
You can have Django serve the Meteor front-end while providing access to its data using django-ddp, giving you some distinct advantages:
Continue to serve your existing Django project/apps.
No extra services or ports to manage.
Scale out by simply adding more front-end Python/Django servers (server to server IPC is done via the existing database connection).
Use django.contrib.auth user accounts in your Meteor app.
Familiar Python/Django code (no "callback" style such as with Tornado).
Use time-tested, trusted relational databases.
Use Django migrations to effectively manage schema changes.
There's a Gitter chat room where I can give you assistance if you need it.
DISCLAIMER: I'm the author of django-ddp.
A meteor application is more than capable of handling the user registration flow and many other things. Why not just build the application entirely in meteor? Your application sounds like a perfect candidate for meteor, with realtime interaction with your database at the core.
The other option would be to use swampdragon which adds realtime data binding within django. It allows for simple bi directional communication between the server and the client. Again, essential for a chat application. It nice and easy to get setup and running as well.
Are there any specific reasons to not implementing your application in one framework alone?
I am making a website with django now and I want to implement a live notification feature like the one on facebook or SE.
I did some research and it seems although there's two options: ajax long polling and websockets, the latter is the way to go.
However, as you know the go to plugin for websocket 'socket.io' turns out to be a node.js plugin and the django port only seems to support python 2 and the project seems pretty much dead. I am using python 2.7 as my project interpreter but I want to future proof myself so that if I upgrade to python3 later, I don't find myself not being able to use this functionality.
So my question is this:
Is there a straight forward and future ready way to implement websocket which will be used to send live notifications and chats in django env?
Django itself is build in blocking manner, i.e. with synchronous approach. So, you cannot open persistent websocket with django app, as it will block entire django thread.
If you want to enable notification/chat within django project environment, i would recommend to use centrifuge. It is written in python, but async (non-blocking) framework is used: tornado.
But, you don't need to even know how it works, as it provides simple REST api to communicate with it.
Simplified workflow, check docs for more details:
Start centrifuge at same server, as your django project (or on another but with low latency between them)
Your front-end will open websocket with centrifuge, not with django project.
When you need to send notification, send it to centrifuge from django via REST api, and centrifuge will deliver it to needed clients!
I've already tried it and it works!
Django doesn't provide what you're looking for out of the box. You'll have to use a third party library. One that works across frameworks is Pusher.
I think you must go for Firebase it gives you awesome synchronization and any how you are going to use chat on frontend so its does not have to do anything with django environment so you can update you backend asynchron in callback with firbase. Also firebase with AngularJS provides you really really awesome three way binding.
I'm reading this tutorial of Django Celery and I'm wondering since Django is a web development framework, where Celery will be actually used to queue the tasks in web development ?
Give your suggestions using examples .
Basically, anything that doesn't have to happen in the typical request-response web application cycle.
The goal is generally to improve performance by doing those tasks in the background.
A few examples:
Sending notification emails.
Updating or invalidating non-critical caches
Calling an external web service
I plan to make an online game. It will be a full real-time during play. For my website backend I have used Django. Database and other things are almost done. What is the best way to make user client side and server side backend for play in realtime? As I use Django it would be nice to have it in Python.
We plan that there will be minimum ~1000 online players all the time.
Twisted/Tornado/Node.js or maybe something else?
Thanks in advance.
Tornado is very light and pretty nice in my opinion. You could integrate it with Django in various ways -- e.g. Integrate Tornado in Django, Integrating Django with Tornado's web server -- or just run it alongside Django behind whatever web server you use.
Node is so fun that you might tire of Django. :-)
I think you should keep separately Django - which is used for general site functions, and Tornado - which is used for realtime data. I think you should use some Redis to store/read data and communicate between django and tornado, so prevent using database access directly from tornado.
Developing your own backend server sounds as interesting project.
But from my experience it becomes a very significant of your R&D effort.
It starts with developing core backend components, dealing with servers, installs, patches, security issues and more.
On top of it, you will need to create admin systems to manage your player, levels, xp, integration to stores and more... and then, you have the reports (installs, retention, etc'...)
I would strongly recommend using existing backend platforms.