C/C++: How can a structure contain a pointer pointing to itself? - c++

The question is more of theory-based than practical implementation.
What I would like to know is, in the code:
struct temp {
int num;
struct temp *next;
};
In the structure made above, how does the compiler decide how much of space should be allocated in memory when we instantiate it?
If I try to dry-run the code, the size of an integer would be 2 or 4 bytes, after that, if I try to find the size of the pointer to the structure itself, I enter a structure containing another integer and a pointer to itself.
By this logic, the compiler would enter an infinite loop when deciding to allocate space to an element of this structure, how then is the space decided?
P.S. I did try to find out the size of this structure myself (using the sizeof() operator, it turned out to be 16 bytes (the size of the integer being 4 bytes)... I'm interested in knowing how did it determine this figure of 16 bytes as the space required!

A structure containing a pointer to itself is not a problem.
A pointer has a fixed size, so it doesn't matter how big the size of the structure it points to is. On most systems you're likely to come across, a pointer will be either 4 bytes or 8 bytes in size.
For the struct you've given, the int field will probably use 4 bytes and the struct temp * field will probably use 8 bytes. This means the struct will be at least 12 bytes in size, probably 16 due to padding for proper alignment.
If on the other hand you had something like this:
struct temp {
int num;
struct temp next;
};
This would not be legal because the struct contains a copy of itself, which would in turn contain a copy of itself, and so on.

In the structure made above, how does the compiler decide how much of space should be allocated in memory when we instantiate it?
Pointer types take up a fixed size, which is not dependent on the pointed-to type (IOW, the size and representation of struct temp * is not in any way dependent on the size or representation of struct temp). Furthermore, all pointer to struct types have the same size:
6.2.5 Types
...
28 A pointer to void shall have the same representation and alignment requirements as a
pointer to a character type.48) Similarly, pointers to qualified or unqualified versions of
compatible types shall have the same representation and alignment requirements. All
pointers to structure types shall have the same representation and alignment requirements
as each other. All pointers to union types shall have the same representation and
alignment requirements as each other. Pointers to other types need not have the same
representation or alignment requirements.
C 2011 online draft
On platforms like x86, all pointer types have the same size and representation, but the standard has to take oddball architectures into account.
It's no different than if you had a pointer to int or pointer to void as a member. The only thing that makes it look weird is that you're creating a self-referential pointer, which is allowed:
6.7.2.1 Structure and union specifiers
...
3 A structure or union shall not contain a member with incomplete or function type (hence,
a structure shall not contain an instance of itself, but may contain a pointer to an instance
of itself), except that the last member of a structure with more than one named member
may have incomplete array type; such a structure (and any union containing, possibly
recursively, a member that is such a structure) shall not be a member of a structure or an
element of an array.
ibid.
Even though the struct type itself is not complete until the closing } of the definition, any pointer to it is complete (that is, its size is known).
The size of the pointed-to type matters for pointer arithmetic (i.e., the address value resulting from p + 1 will depend on the size of the thing p points to). However, it doesn't matter for storing the pointer itself.

Related

Is the address of the first data member of an instance the same as the address of the instance? [duplicate]

Can I assume that a C/C++ struct pointer will always point to the first member?
Example 1:
typedef struct {
unsigned char array_a[2];
unsigned char array_b[5];
}test;
//..
test var;
//..
In the above example will &var always point to array_a?
Also in the above example is it possible to cast the pointer
to an unsigned char pointer and access each byte separately?
Example 2:
function((unsigned char *)&var,sizeof(test));
//...
//...
void function(unsigned char *array, int len){
int i;
for( i=0; i<len; i++){
array[i]++;
}
}
Will that work correctly?
Note: I know that chars are byte aligned in a struct therefore I assume the size of the above struct is 7 bytes.
For C structs, yes, you can rely on it. This is how almost all "object orientated"-style APIs work in C (such as GObject and GTK).
For C++, you can rely on it only for "plain old data" (POD) types, which are guaranteed to be laid out in memory the same way as C structs. Exactly what constitutes a POD type is a little complicated and has changed between C++03 and C++11, but the crux of it is that if your type has any virtual functions then it's not a POD.
(In C++11 you can use std::is_pod to test at compile-time whether a struct is a POD type.)
EDIT: This tells you what constitutes a POD type in C++: http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/concept/PODType
EDIT2: Actually, in C++11, it doesn't need to be a POD, just "standard layout", which is a lightly weaker condition. Quoth section 9.2 [class.mem] paragraph 20 of the standard:
A pointer to a standard-layout struct object, suitably converted using a reinterpret_cast, points to its
initial member (or if that member is a bit-field, then to the unit in which it resides) and vice versa. [ Note:
There might therefore be unnamed padding within a standard-layout struct object, but not at its beginning,
as necessary to achieve appropriate alignment. — end note ]
From the C99 standard section 6.7.2.1 bullet point 13:
Within a structure object, the non-bit-field members and the units in
which bit-fields reside have addresses that increase in the order in
which they are declared. A pointer to a structure object, suitably
converted, points to its initial member (or if that member is a
bit-field, then to the unit in which it resides), and vice versa.
There may be unnamed padding within a structure object, but not at its
beginning.
The answer to your question is therefore yes.
Reference (see page 103)
The compiler is free to add padding and reorganize the struct how it sees fit. Especially in C++ you can add (virtual) functions and then chances are that the virtual table is hidden before that. But of course that are implementation details.
For C this assumption is valid.
For C, it's largely implementation-specific, but in practice the rule (in the absence of #pragma pack or something likewise) is:
Struct members are stored in the order they are declared. (This is required by the C99 standard, as mentioned here earlier.)
If necessary, padding is added before each struct member, to ensure correct alignment.
So given a struct like
struct test{
char ch;
int i;
}
will have ch at offset 0, then a padding byte to align, i at offset 2 and then at the end, padding bytes are added to make the struct size a multiple of 8 bytes.(on a 64-bit machine, 4 byte alignment may be permitted in 32 bit machines)
So at least in this case, for C, I think you can assume that the struct pointer will point to the first array.

Why can't we generalize the pointer declaration?

The size of pointer is same irrespective of datatype it is pointing to.Then why do we need to declare the datatype it points to?
For example,
int *p; //p will point to an integer data type.
char *p; //p will point to a character
Then,why can't we generalize a pointer declaration like this
pointer p; //where p is an object of pointer class.
TL;DR because, different data types occupy different size in memory and has different alignment requirement.
To elaborate, a pointer variable holds an address which points to some type of data. Without the type associated, there would be no way to dereference the pointer and get the value.
In other words, to access the data pointed to by a pointer, the associated data type must be known.
The size of the pointer itself, has little connection to the actual data it points to.
There exists a pointer , void * which is considered a generic pointer, but then, you can't dereference it, as the result of dereference would attempt to produce an incomplete type. You need to cast it to a complete type to be able to dereference or apply pointer arithmetic on a void pointer.
The reason behind considering void * a generic pointer is as below, quoting from the C11 standard, chapter §6.3.2.3
A pointer to void may be converted to or from a pointer to any object type. A pointer to
any object type may be converted to a pointer to void and back again; the result shall
compare equal to the original pointer.
So, a void * can be used as a generic container which can hold any pointer type, but to make some operation on the pointer (which includes the knowledge of the data type), you need to cast it to a complete type first.
You can generalize pointers using void*. void* is a pointer to some address without any type information associated. However, there is little you can do with these pointers without casting them to an explicit pointer type first.
Consider the following example. It will not compile, because it's impossible to deduce the "value" pointed to by ptr is. You can't even know how many bytes constitute the value.
void print(const void * ptr) {
std::cout << *ptr; // What's the "value" of ptr?
}
Pointer arithmetic.
Explanation:
int arr[] = {4, 6, 9, 10};
int* x = arr;
*(x+0) = 4
*(x+1) = 6
Compiler knows that x+1 is actually x+sizeof(int) and not 1.
To read the second element the compiler has to skip sizeof(int) each time. Without knowing the actual type you can't dereference it and extract the data correctly.
Plus types differ in size, and the compiler needs to know how many bytes to read from the memory pointed to. A char will be 1 byte and int will be more than 1 byte.
A void * pointer can be viewed as a "generalized" pointer.
It can't be dereferenced, though, because by being generic it doesn't point to any one type of object. To actually use a void * pointer and access whatever it's pointing to, you need to cast it to the type of object you're accessing.
And since it doesn't point to any one type of object, there's no proper way to perform pointer arithmetic on a void * pointer.
The size of pointer is same irrespective of data type it is pointing to.
This is not necessarily true - pointers to different types may have different sizes and representations:
A pointer to void shall have the same representation and alignment requirements as a
pointer to a character type.48) Similarly, pointers to qualified or unqualified versions of
compatible types shall have the same representation and alignment requirements. All
pointers to structure types shall have the same representation and alignment requirements
as each other. All pointers to union types shall have the same representation and
alignment requirements as each other. Pointers to other types need not have the same
representation or alignment requirements.
C 2011 Online Draft, §6.2.5 ¶28
The value representation of pointer types
is implementation-defined. Pointers to layout-compatible types shall have the same value representation and
alignment requirements (3.11).
C++ 2014 Working Draft, §3.9.2, ¶3
On most modern desktop and servers they're the same, but don't expect it to be universally true.
Then why do we need to declare the data type it is pointing to?
Pointer arithmetic depends on the pointed-to type - if p points to an object of type T, then p + 1 points to the next object of type T. Since different types have different sizes, you need to know the pointed-to type to compute the offset correctly.
Then,why can't we generalize a pointer declaration like this
pointer p; //where p is an object of pointer class.
You actually can using void*. But the consequence is that all type (and size information) is lost at that point.
You'll have to keep track of that somehow (hard-coded type casts or whatever), to make that useful.

Is sizeof(T) == sizeof(int)?

I've been poring over the draft standard and can't seem to find what I'm looking for.
If I have a standard-layout type
struct T {
unsigned handle;
};
Then I know that reinterpret_cast<unsigned*>(&t) == &t.handle for some T t;
The goal is to create some vector<T> v and pass &v[0] to a C function that expects a pointer to an array of unsigned integers.
So, does the standard define sizeof(T) == sizeof(unsigned) and does that imply that an array of T would have the same layout as an array of unsigned?
While this question addresses a very similar topic, I'm asking about the specific case where both the data member and the class are standard layout, and the data member is a fundamental type.
I've read some paragraphs that seem to hint that maybe it might be true, but nothing that hits the nail on the head. For example:
§ 9.2.17
Two standard-layout struct (Clause 9) types are layout-compatible if
they have the same number of non-static data members and corresponding
non-static data members (in declaration order) have layout-compatible
types
This isn't quite what I'm looking for, I don't think.
You essentially are asking, given:
struct T {
U handle;
};
whether it's guaranteed that sizeof(T) == sizeof(U). No, it is not.
Section 9.2/17 of the ISO C++03 standard says:
A pointer to a POD-struct object, suitably converted using a
reinterpret_cast, points to its initial member (or if that member is a
bit-field, then to the unit in which it resides) and vice versa.
Suppose you have an array of struct T. The vice versa part means that the address of any of the T::handle members must also be a valid address of a struct T. Now, suppose that these members are of type char and that your claim is true. This would mean that struct T would be allowed to have an unaligned address, which seems rather unlikely. The standard usually tries to not tie the hands of implementations in such a way. For your claim to be true, the standard would have to require that struct T be allowed to have unaligned addresses. And it would have to be allowed for all structures, because struct T could be a forward-declared, opaque type.
Furthermore, section 9.2/17 goes on to state:
[Note: There might therefore be unnamed padding within a POD-struct object, but not at its beginning, as necessary to achieve appropriate alignment.]
Which, taken a different way, means that there is no guarantee that there will never be padding.
I am used to Borland environments and for them:
T is a struct in your case so sizeof(T) is size of struct
that depends on #pragma pack and align setting of your compiler
so sometimes it can be greater than sizeof(unsigned) !!!
for the same reason if you have 4Byte struct (uint32) and 16Byte allign
struct T { uint32 u; };
then T a[100] is not the same as uint32 a[100];
because T is uint32 + 12 Byte empty space !!!
RETRACTION: The argument is erroneous. The proof of Lemma 2 relies on a hidden premise that the alignment of an aggregate type is determined strictly by the alignments of its member types. As Dyp points out in the commentary, that premise is not supported by the standard. It is therefore admissible for struct { Foo f } to have a more strict alignment requirement that Foo.
I'll play devil's advocate here, since no one else seems to be willing. I will argue that standard C++ (I'll refer to N3797 herein) guarantees that sizeof(T) == sizeof(U) when T is a standard layout class (9/7) with default alignment having a single default-aligned non-static data member U, e.g,
struct T { // or class, or union
U u;
};
It's well-established that:
sizeof(T) >= sizeof(U)
offsetof(T, u) == 0 (9.2/19)
U must be a standard layout type for T to be a standard layout class
u has a representation consisting of exactly sizeof(U) contiguous bytes of memory (1.8/5)
Together these facts imply that the first sizeof(U) bytes of the representation of T are occupied by the representation of u. If sizeof(T) > sizeof(U), the excess bytes must then be tail padding: unused padding bytes inserted after the representation of u in T.
The argument is, in short:
The standard details the circumstances in which an implementation may add padding to a standard-layout class,
None of those cirumstances applies in this particular instance, and hence
A conforming implementation may not add padding.
Potential Sources of Padding
Under what circumstances does the standard allow an implementation to add such padding to the representation of a standard layout class? When it's necessary for alignment: per 3.11/1, "An alignment is an implementation-defined integer value representing the number of bytes between successive addresses at which a given object can be allocated." There are two mentions of adding padding, both for alignment reasons:
5.3.3 Sizeof [expr.sizeof]/2 states "When applied to a reference or a reference type, the result is the size of the referenced type. When applied
to a class, the result is the number of bytes in an object of that class including any padding required for placing objects of that type in an array. The size of a most derived class shall be greater than zero (1.8). The result of applying sizeof to a base class subobject is the size of the base class type.77 When applied to an array, the result is the total number of bytes in the array. This implies that the size of an array of n elements is n times the size of an element."
9.2 Class members [class.mem]/13 states "Implementation alignment requirements might cause two adjacent members not to be allocated immediately after each other; so might requirements for space for managing virtual functions (10.3) and virtual base classes (10.1)."
(Notably the C++ standard does not contain a blanket statement allowing implementations to insert padding in structures as in the C standards, e.g., N1570 (C11-ish) §6.7.2.1/15 "There may be unnamed padding within a structure object, but not at its beginning." and /17 "There may be unnamed padding at the end of a structure or union.")
Clearly the text of 9.2 doesn't apply to our problem, since (a) T has only one member and thus no "adjacent members", and (b) T is standard layout and hence has no virtual functions or virtual base classes (per 9/7). Demonstrating that 5.3.3/2 doesn't allow padding in our problem is more challenging.
Some Prerequisites
Lemma 1: For any type W with default alignment, alignof(W) divides sizeof(W): By 5.3.3/2, the size of an array of n elements of type W is exactly n times sizeof(W) (i.e., there is no "external" padding between array elements). The addresses of consecutive array elements are then sizeof(W) bytes apart. By the definition of alignment, it must then be that alignof(W) divides sizeof(W).
Lemma 2: The alignment alignof(W) of a default-aligned standard layout class W with only default-aligned data members is the least common multiple LCM(W) of the alignments of the data members (or 1 if there are none): Given an address at which an object of W can be allocated, the address LCM(W) bytes away must also be appropriately aligned: the difference between the addresses of member subobjects would also be LCM(W) bytes, and the alignment of each such member subobject divides LCM(W). Per the definition of alignment in 3.11/1, we have that alignof(W) divides LCM(W). Any whole number of bytes n < LCM(W) must not be divisible by the alignment of some member v of W, so an address that is only n bytes away from an address at which an object of W can be allocated is consequently not appropriately aligned for an object of W, i.e., alignof(W) >= LCM(W). Given that alignof(W) divides LCM(W) and alignof(W) >= LCM(W), we have alignof(W) == LCM(W).
Conclusion
Application of this lemma to the original problem has the immediate consequence that alignof(T) == alignof(U). So how much padding might be "required for placing objects of that type in an array"? None. Since alignof(T) == alignof(U) by the second lemma, and alignof(U) divides sizeof(U) by the first, it must be that alignof(T) divides sizeof(U) so zero bytes of padding are required to place objects of type T in an array.
Since all possible sources of padding bytes have been eliminated, an implementation may not add padding to T and we have sizeof(T) == sizeof(U) as required.

C/C++ Pointer to a POD struct also points to the 1st struct member

Can I assume that a C/C++ struct pointer will always point to the first member?
Example 1:
typedef struct {
unsigned char array_a[2];
unsigned char array_b[5];
}test;
//..
test var;
//..
In the above example will &var always point to array_a?
Also in the above example is it possible to cast the pointer
to an unsigned char pointer and access each byte separately?
Example 2:
function((unsigned char *)&var,sizeof(test));
//...
//...
void function(unsigned char *array, int len){
int i;
for( i=0; i<len; i++){
array[i]++;
}
}
Will that work correctly?
Note: I know that chars are byte aligned in a struct therefore I assume the size of the above struct is 7 bytes.
For C structs, yes, you can rely on it. This is how almost all "object orientated"-style APIs work in C (such as GObject and GTK).
For C++, you can rely on it only for "plain old data" (POD) types, which are guaranteed to be laid out in memory the same way as C structs. Exactly what constitutes a POD type is a little complicated and has changed between C++03 and C++11, but the crux of it is that if your type has any virtual functions then it's not a POD.
(In C++11 you can use std::is_pod to test at compile-time whether a struct is a POD type.)
EDIT: This tells you what constitutes a POD type in C++: http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/concept/PODType
EDIT2: Actually, in C++11, it doesn't need to be a POD, just "standard layout", which is a lightly weaker condition. Quoth section 9.2 [class.mem] paragraph 20 of the standard:
A pointer to a standard-layout struct object, suitably converted using a reinterpret_cast, points to its
initial member (or if that member is a bit-field, then to the unit in which it resides) and vice versa. [ Note:
There might therefore be unnamed padding within a standard-layout struct object, but not at its beginning,
as necessary to achieve appropriate alignment. — end note ]
From the C99 standard section 6.7.2.1 bullet point 13:
Within a structure object, the non-bit-field members and the units in
which bit-fields reside have addresses that increase in the order in
which they are declared. A pointer to a structure object, suitably
converted, points to its initial member (or if that member is a
bit-field, then to the unit in which it resides), and vice versa.
There may be unnamed padding within a structure object, but not at its
beginning.
The answer to your question is therefore yes.
Reference (see page 103)
The compiler is free to add padding and reorganize the struct how it sees fit. Especially in C++ you can add (virtual) functions and then chances are that the virtual table is hidden before that. But of course that are implementation details.
For C this assumption is valid.
For C, it's largely implementation-specific, but in practice the rule (in the absence of #pragma pack or something likewise) is:
Struct members are stored in the order they are declared. (This is required by the C99 standard, as mentioned here earlier.)
If necessary, padding is added before each struct member, to ensure correct alignment.
So given a struct like
struct test{
char ch;
int i;
}
will have ch at offset 0, then a padding byte to align, i at offset 2 and then at the end, padding bytes are added to make the struct size a multiple of 8 bytes.(on a 64-bit machine, 4 byte alignment may be permitted in 32 bit machines)
So at least in this case, for C, I think you can assume that the struct pointer will point to the first array.

Is the size of a struct required to be an exact multiple of the alignment of that struct?

Once again, I'm questioning a longstanding belief.
Until today, I believed that the alignment of the following struct would normally be 4 and the size would normally be 5...
struct example
{
int m_Assume_32_Bits;
char m_Assume_8_Bit_Bytes;
};
Because of this assumption, I have data structure code that uses offsetof to determine the distance in bytes between two adjacent items in an array. Today, I spotted some old code that was using sizeof where it shouldn't, couldn't understand why I hadn't had bugs from it, coded up a unit test - and the test surprised me by passing.
A bit of investigation showed that the sizeof the type I used for the test (similar to the struct above) was an exact multiple of the alignment - ie 8 bytes. It had padding after the final member. Here is an example of why I never expected this...
struct example2
{
example m_Example;
char m_Why_Cant_This_Be_At_Offset_6_Bytes;
};
A bit of Googling showed examples that make it clear that this padding after the final member is allowed - for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_structure_alignment#Data_structure_padding (the "or at the end of the structure" bit).
This is a bit embarrassing, as I recently posted this comment - Use of struct padding (my first comment to that answer).
What I can't seem to determine is whether this padding to an exact multiple of the alignment is guaranteed by the C++ standard, or whether it is just something that is permitted and that some (but maybe not all) compilers do.
So - is the size of a struct required to be an exact multiple of the alignment of that struct according to the C++ standard?
If the C standard makes different guarantees, I'm interested in that too, but the focus is on C++.
5.3.3/2
When applied to a class, the result [of sizeof] is the number of bytes in an object of that class, including any padding required for placing objects of that type in an array.
So yes, object size is a multiple of its alignment.
One definition of alignment size:
The alignment size of a struct is the offset from one element to the next element when you have an array of that struct.
By its nature, if you have an array of a struct with two elements, then both need to have aligned members, so that means that yes, the size has to be a multiple of the alignment. (I'm not sure if any standard explicitly enforce this, but because the size and alignment of a struct don't depend on whether the struct is alone or inside an array, the same rules apply to both, so it can't really be any other way.)
The standard says (section [dcl.array]:
An object of array type contains a contiguously allocated non-empty set of N subobjects of type T.
Therefore there is no padding between array elements.
Padding inside structures is not required by the standard, but the standard doesn't permit any other way of aligning array elements.
I am unsure if this is in the actual C/C++ standard, and I am inclined to say that it is up to the compiler (just to be on the safe side). However, I had a "fun" time figuring that out a few months ago, where I had to send dynamically generated C structs as byte arrays across a network as part of a protocol, to communicate with a chip. The alignment and size of all the structs had to be consistent with the structs in the code running on the chip, which was compiled with a variant of GCC for the MIPS architecture. I'll attempt to give the algorithm, and it should apply to all variants of gcc (and hopefully most other compilers).
All base types, like char, short and int align to their size, and they align to the next available position, regardless of the alignment of the parent. And to answer the original question, yes the total size is a multiple of the alignment.
// size 8
struct {
char A; //byte 0
char B; //byte 1
int C; //byte 4
};
Even though the alignment of the struct is 4 bytes, the chars are still packed as close as possible.
The alignment of a struct is equal to the largest alignment of its members.
Example:
//size 4, but alignment is 2!
struct foo {
char A; //byte 0
char B; //byte 1
short C; //byte 3
}
//size 6
struct bar {
char A; //byte 0
struct foo B; //byte 2
}
This also applies to unions, and in a curious way. The size of a union can be larger than any of the sizes of its members, simply due to alignment:
//size 3, alignment 1
struct foo {
char A; //byte 0
char B; //byte 1
char C; //byte 2
};
//size 2, alignment 2
struct bar {
short A; //byte 0
};
//size 4! alignment 2
union foobar {
struct foo A;
struct bar B;
}
Using these simple rules, you should be able to figure out the alignment/size of any horribly nested union/struct you come across. This is all from memory, so if I have missed a corner case that can't be decided from these rules please let me know!
C++ doesn't explicitly says so, but it is a consequence of two other requirements:
First, all objects must be well-aligned.
3.8/1 says
The lifetime of an object of type T begins when [...] storage with the proper alignment and size for type T is obtained
and 3.9/5:
Object types have *alignnment requirements (3.9.1, 3.9.2). The alignment of a complete object type is an implementation-defined integer value representing a number of bytes; an object is allocated at an address that meets the alignment requirements of its object type.
So every object must be aligned according to its alignment requirements.
The other requirement is that objects in an array are allocated contigulously:
8.3.4/1:
An object of array type contains a contiguously allocated non-empty set of N subobjects of type T.
For the objects in an array to be contiguously allocated, there can be no padding between them. But for every object in the array to be properly aligned, each individual object must be padded so that the byte immediately after the end of the object is also well aligned. In other words, the size of the object must be a multiple of its alignment.
So to split your question up into two:
1. Is it legal?
[5.3.3.2] When applied to a class, the result [of the sizeof() operator] is the number of bytes in an object of that class including any padding required for placing objects of that type in an array.
So, no, it's not.
2. Well, why isn't it?
Here, I cna only speculate.
2.1. Pointer arithmetics get weirder
If alignment would be "between array elements" but would not affect the size, zthigns would get needlessly complicated, e.g.
(char *)(X+1) != ((char *)X) + sizeof(X)
(I have a hunch that this is required implicitely by the standard even without above statement, but I can't put it to proof)
2.2 Simplicity
If alignment affects size, alignment and size can be decided by looking at a single type. Consider this:
struct A { int x; char y; }
struct B { A left, right; }
With the current standard, I just need to know sizeof(A) to determine size and layout of B.
With the alternate you suggest I need to know the internals of A. Similar to your example2: for a "better packing", sizeof(example) is not enough, you need to consider the internals of example.
It is possible to produce a C or C++ typedef whose alignment is not a multiple of its size. This came up recently in this bindgen bug. Here's a minimal example, which I'll call test.c below:
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdalign.h>
__attribute__ ((aligned(4))) typedef struct {
char x[3];
} WeirdType;
int main() {
printf("sizeof(WeirdType) = %ld\n", sizeof(WeirdType));
printf("alignof(WeirdType) = %ld\n", alignof(WeirdType));
return 0;
}
On my Arch Linux x86_64 machine, gcc -dumpversion && gcc test.c && ./a.out prints:
9.3.0
sizeof(WeirdType) = 3
alignof(WeirdType) = 4
Similarly clang -dumpversion && clang test.c && ./a.out prints:
9.0.1
sizeof(WeirdType) = 3
alignof(WeirdType) = 4
Saving the file as test.cc and using g++/clang++ gives the same result. (Update from a couple years later: I get the same results from GCC 11.1.0 and Clang 13.0.0.)
Notably however, MSVC on Windows does not seem to reproduce any behavior like this.
The standard says very little about padding and alignment. Very little is guaranteed. About the only thing you can bet on is that the first element is at the beginning of the structure. After that...alignment and padding can be anything.
Seems the C++03 standard didn't say (or I didn't find) whether the alignment padding bytes should be included in the object representation.
And the C99 standard says the "sizeof" a struct type or union type includes internal and trailing padding, but I'm not sure if all alignment padding is included in that "trailing padding".
Now back to your example. There is really no confusion. sizeof(example) == 8 means the structure does take 8 bytes to represent itself, including the tailing 3 padding bytes. If the char in the second structure has an offset of 6, it will overwrite the space used by m_Example. The layout of a certain type is implementation-defined, and should be kept stable in the whole implementation.
Still, whether p+1 equals (T*)((char*)p + sizeof(T)) is unsure. And I'm hoping to find the answer.