I have read a lot of articles and questions about socket programming but I don't get one thing.
Imagine I have some wi-fi network, and some device connected to that wi-fi network. I send some message to the device over the wifi network, the device get's it (sure thing) and sends something to a server and I want to read (receive) that message and send it somewhere else, or even just std::cout it. How should I connect, and receive it because I don't really know how.
To better explain it:
A - device connected to wifi (device has got some IP address)
B - app that sends message to A
C - server that listens and receives messages
that device A sends
And my question is, if B connects to A and sends something that A got, how should C get that what A give's away.
To answer this part of the question "How should I connect, and receive it because I don't really know how?"...
Take a look at boost::asio and boost::beast. Lots of functionality here. Should be able to do whatever you want with the socket and talking to other devices over the network.
To answer the second part of the question...
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A - device connected to wifi (device has got some IP address)
B - app that sends message to A
C - server that listens and receives messages that device A sends
And my question is, if B connects to A and sends something that A got, how should C get that what A give's away."
I'm a little confused as to what you mean here.
If C is the intermediary, that's easy. C receives whatever packets contain the message from B, reads, and then reroutes them (or duplicates what is necessary and sends it to B).
Also, here's a good resource from Duke on how this all works.
How to do this without boost. More info on doing this without boost. Google is your friend :).
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Writing a UDP client-server app in C++ (done that lots of times before in many languages in the past 15 years), but somehow this one is not working correctly.
I cannot post actual code nor minimal reproducible app at the moment but I am willing to pay for live help if anyone is available to help solve this quickly with screensharing.
I think this is a particularity with C++ sockets and the way I am using them in this specific app which is quite complex.
Basically the issue is that the packets sent from the server to the client are not received by the client, only when said client is on a separate nat.
When both in same local networking and using their local IP, everything works as expected.
Here is what I am doing :
Client sendto(...) packets through UDP to the server using a specific server host and port 12345 (and keeps sending these non-stop)
On another thread, client bind(...) on port 12345 and "0.0.0.0" and tries to poll() and recvfrom() in a loop (poll always returns 0 here when client is on a separate nat)
Server bind() on port 12345 and "0.0.0.0" then poll() and recvfrom() in a loop
Upon receiving the first UDP message from a client, it starts a thread for sending
UDP messages back to the client on a new socket, using the
sockaddr_in that it got from the recvfrom() to pass in the sendto() commands.
Result : Server perfectly receives ALL messages from all clients, and sends all messages back to all clients, but any client that is not on the same NAT will never receive any messages (poll() always returns 0).
As far as I understand it, when the client sends a UDP message to the server on a specific remote port (12345 in this case), it will punch a hole in its NAT so that it can receive messages back from the remote server on that port...
I tested five different client network configurations :
Local network with the server, using local IP addresses (WORKS)
Local network with the server while client is using a VPN thus going through a remote NAT (DOES NOT WORK)
Local network with the server but client is using the WAN ip address to connect to the server (DOES NOT WORK)
Client at an actual remote network from a friend's connection, behind a router (DOES NOT WORK)
Client going through a wifi hotspot created using my phone (DOES NOT WORK)
For all tests above, the server was correctly receiving all communications from clients.
I also tried forcing the port to 12345 for the sendto() instead of using the sockaddr_in as set from recvfrom(), same issue.
Am I doing anything wrong ?
If you want to help but need to see actual code, I can do that live with screen sharing and I will pay for the help.
Thanks.
Also, if anyone can point me to a great site where I can pay for VERY QUICK help, please let me know, I don't even bother searching google because I really want actual advice from people who tried these services, not ads trying to rip me off...
Only the original receiver socket is allowed to reply to the client, because it's the client request that opens the port in the NAT. So either use the same socket in the server to receive and reply, or get the port that the second server socket was bound to and transfer it with an initial message through the original server port, so that A can send to it and punch the hole.
It looks so strange to create two half duplex sockets when a socket is a full duplex communication object that I'd go with the first option.
First, I want to give thanks for that amazing lib! I love it. A client is connecting himself to a server. The server should save the IP and do stuff with it later on (I really need the IP). I found that answer: http://lists.zeromq.org/pipermail/zeromq-dev/2010-September/006381.html but I don't understand how I get the IP out of the message (a XREP)... I think I am only able to read the ID, but the IP is managed internally by 0MQ. His second solution suggests to send the IP as part of the message, but I don't understand how to get the "public"-IP. I found that post: Get TCP address information in ZeroMQ
is pass bind a service to an ephemeral port, get a full connection endpoint ("tcp://ipaddress:port")
I don't get how this works. Does he mean something like a web-service?
In my opinion, it would be best to get the IP out of 0MQ (it has the IP already). I would even adjust 0MQ for that, if somebody could point to the place where the IP is saved, couldn't find it. The socket types are not that important, at the moment. I would prefer smth REQ-REP like. Thank you!
Summary:
TL;DR answer to your question is: you can't get IP address of the peer that sent a message, using ZeroMQ API.
Explanation:
ZeroMQ does not expose peer IP address because it is irrelevant for the message based communication that ZeroMQ is designed for. When it is possible for ZeroMQ to get IP address of client that is connecting to server (in example using method described here), it is useless. For a longer explanation here is how it works inside ZeroMQ and any other server implementation.
Server side of the connection does not handle connected clients by the means of the hashtable that maps IP to client, but by keeping track of connected "sockets" (socket descriptors) - when a server accepts (using accept()) a connection, it receives from operating system socket descriptor to use to communicate with connected peer. All server has to do is keep that descriptor around to read() from and write() to that client. Another client that connects to server receives another socket descriptor.
To summarize: even if ZeroMQ would be able to provide you with IP of connected peer, you should not depend on it. ZeroMQ hides from you connection management so you can focus on messaging. Connection management includes reconnections, which may result in a change of IP without changing the actual ZeroMQ socket connected on the other side.
So here's an example of why you might want to get the ip address a message was delivered from: we have a server whose job it is to synchronize updates onto occasionally-connected clients (think mobile devices here, though this is an extreme example of a mobile deivce.)
When the mobile unit comes onto the network, it sends a list of it's firmware files to the server via a dealer-router connection. The server has a list of all applicable firmware files; if the client needs an update it will initiate an update via a separate mechanism.
Since the IPs for the devices can (and do) change, we need to know the IP address associated with the mobile device FOR THIS CONNECTION, i.e. right now.
Yes, we absolutely can have the client send it's IP address in the message, but that's a waste of another n bytes of valuable satellite air time, and while not pure evil, is sure annoying. Zmq already has this information, if it didn't have it, it wouldn't be able to generate replies. The address is in the socket data, there's no reason the message couldn't (optionally, for all you guys who use wired networks and think disconnects are the exception) include a reference to the socket structure so you can get the address out of it. Other than pedantic religiosity, which is far too common in zmq.
The way ZeroMQ is designed there's no information provided on the remote IP. As far as I know you have to manage this through your application by sending that information as a message of some sort.
The messages themselves use an IP-agnostic ID which has more to do with the instance of ZeroMQ running than any particular interface. This is because there may be more than one transport method and interface connecting the two instances.
I am pretty new to socket programming - so this might be a simple question but I'd really like to clarify.
I have a multiple-client to single server program: the individual clients send messages to the server which processes them, and then passes it on the destination i.e. the server is an intermediary.
On the server side, there is one thread for each client which is meant to 'listen' for messages from the clients (which will be placed in a buffer). At the moment all the clients are sending messages to the same port (as far as I can tell).
I am thinking of setting up another thread on which the server will process the messages before transmitting them on. Does it make sense to use another port on the server to send those messages?
I don't mean this to be a discussion, but I don't know what is common or more logical to do - any advice?
On the client-side, I am planning for it to have one thread for sending messages to the server, and another thread for receiving. Please let me know if any other information is required!
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At the moment it is a 1-server-to-multiple(tens now, hundreds later)-client program - I seem to have problems with the client receiving messages from my server (I am troubleshooting so I thought that using the same ports might be the problem), but I will try it with the same ports again and see. I thought it might be a matter of the receiving port being too busy to send messages as well.
At the moment all the clients are sending messages to the same port (as far as I can tell).
What do you mean 'as far as I can tell'? You must know whether you are opening more than one port at the server.
Does it make sense to use another port on the server to send those messages?
No it doesn't. If you're using TCP, send the messages back down the same socket. If you're using UDP you don't need more than one UDP socket, and it simplifies the client and the application protocol if replies come from the same ip:port the request was sent from.
I currently have a basic chat program in c++ that uses WinSock2.h with UDP. Currently the user is able to send a message to the server and the server just sends the same message back. I was wondering where do I go from here (i'm not asking for code). I was wondering how I should go forward in having the messages get sent to another client that is also connected to the server.
If I need to explain what I have done already please let me know.
All suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks
You would have a list of currently connected users, when a user sends a message, it would then post it to all connected users.
Your server would keep track of who is connected, and remove those who get disconnected. When someone connect or disconnects, it would send a notification to all currently connected users, telling them of this notification.
All this is not specific to UDP, infact, TCP would probably be better for this type of messaging as you do not have to worry about messages being dropped. UDP should only be used where performance is of upmost importance, like real-time gaming, voice chat.
When you're saying "connected" (in the context of clients) - what exactly do you mean?? Because you say you're using UDP in your program.
In the UDP protocol there's no "connected" state, unless you implement it.
In the TCP protocol however, there is (implemented within the protocol itself).
Furthermore, the basic idea of "broadcasting" a message is simple - keep a list of connected clients.
Add a client when it connects. Remove it from the list when it disconnects.
Then when you want to send a message to everyone you just iterate through this list.
Again, you'll have to receive those dis/connect events before you could keep track of "connected" clients.
If you go with TCP instead of UDP then you're set.
Good luck.
Basically, like Matthew said, you need to store all the current connections to the server. When a socket connects you can store a reference to that socket. Now whenever a client sends a message you can rebroadcast that to all the sockets. Now you have to handle when sockets disconnect as well since you don't want to store a bunch of closed sockets.
i am developing client server application in windows using c++ and winsock lib it work fine but if it is on network and once server listening started and if i remove network cable then server doesn't shows any error in any thread so where server socket knows network cable is unplugged.
if any body knows please help me.
While it should be possible to detect that the network cable is unplugged on the host, you will still have the same problem if the network is disrupted somewhere else between your server and the clients.
One common (if not the most common) way to solve this is to have a "keep-alive" message being sent. If no reply to that message is received within some timeout you simply close the connection and release all resources associated with it.
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A "keep-alive" message is like using the "ping" command to see if a remote machine can be reached. It is simply a message that is sent, either by the server or the client (it doesn't matter who initiate it) to see if the other end of the connection is alive and can be reached.
It can be as simple as sending the string "Are you there?" and expecting a reply containing "Yes I am". If you send it once every minute, and don't get a reply withing (for example) one minute, you can consider the connection being dead. The other end, that receives the "Are you there?", knows it will get the message once every minute. If it hasn't arrived for two minutes then the sender is no longer reachable.
If the protocol can't be modified to add such messages, then see if some other message can be used instead.
Also, remember that the best and some cases only way to know if something is wrong with a connection is to attempt to read from the socket.
You can unplug a network and then plug it back in, or your Wi-Fi laptop can lose reception for a second and then pick it back up. It would be frustrating if such resumable cases were treated as an error in all the programs we use.
From this Winsock "newbie" FAQ:
The previous question deals with detecting when a protocol connection is dropped normally, but what if you want to detect other problems, like unplugged network cables or crashed workstations? In these cases, the failure prevents notifying the remote peer that something is wrong. My feeling is that this is usually a feature, because the broken component might get fixed before anyone notices, so why demand that the connection be reestablished?
If you feel you have a "special needs" situation you can be aggressive with timeouts. But I wouldn't do that unless there was a really good reason.