C/C++ unions and undefined behaviour - c++

Question

Is the following undefined behaviour?
union {
int foo;
float bar;
} baz;
baz.foo = 3.14 * baz.bar;
I remember that writing and reading from the same underlying memory between two sequence points is UB, but I am not certain.

Answer 1

I remember that writing and reading from the same underlying memory between two sequence points is UB, but I am not certain.
Reading and writing to the same memory location in the same expression does not invoke undefined behavior until and unless that location is modified more than once between two sequence points or the side effect is unsequenced relative to the value computation using the value at the same location.
C11: 6.5 Expressions:
If a side effect on a scalar object is unsequenced relative to either a different side effect on the same scalar object or a value computation using the value of the same scalar object, the behavior is undefined. [...]
The expression
baz.foo = 3.14 * baz.bar;
has well defined behaviour if bar is initialized before. The reason is that the side effect to baz.foo is sequenced relative to the value computations of the objects baz.foo and baz.bar.
C11: 6.5.16/3 Assignment operators:
[...] The side effect of updating the stored value of the left operand is sequenced after the value computations of the left and right operands. The evaluations of the operands are unsequenced.

Answer 2

Disclaimer: This answer addresses C++.
You're accessing an object whose lifetime hasn't begun yet - baz.bar - which induces UB by [basic.life]/(6.1).
Assuming bar has been brought to life (e.g. by initializing it), your code is fine; before the assignment, foo need not be alive as no operation is performed that depends on its value, and during it, the active member is changed by reusing the memory and effectively initializing it. The current rules aren't clear about the latter; see CWG #1116. However, the status quo is that such assignments are indeed setting the target member as active (=alive).
Note that the assignment is sequenced (i.e. guaranteed to happen) after the value computation of the operands - see [expr.ass]/1.

Answer 3

Answering for C, not C++
I thought this was Defined Behavior, but then I read the following paragraph from ISO C2x (which I guess is also present in older C standards, but didn't check):
6.5.16.1/3 (Assignment operators::Simple Assignment::Semantics):
If the value being stored in an object is read from another object
that overlaps in any way the storage of the first object, then the
overlap shall be exact and the two objects shall have qualified or
unqualified versions of a compatible type; otherwise, the behavior is
undefined.
So, let's consider the following:
union {
int a;
const int b;
} db;
union {
int a;
float b;
} ub1;
union {
uint32_t a;
int32_t b;
} ub2;
Then, it is Defined Behavior to do:
db.a = db.b + 1;
But it is Undefined Behavior to do:
ub1.a = ub1.b + 1;
or
ub2.a = ub2.b + 1;
The definition of compatible types is in 6.2.7/1 (Compatible type and composite type). See also: __builtin_types_compatible_p().

Answer 4

The Standard uses the phrase "Undefined Behavior", among other things, as a catch-all for situations where many implementations would process a construct in at least somewhat predictable fashion (e.g. yielding a not-necessarily-predictable value without side effects), but where the authors of the Standard thought it impractical to try to anticipate everything that implementations might do. It wasn't intended as an invitation for implementations to behave gratuitously nonsensically, nor as an indication that code was erroneous (the phrase "non-portable or erroneous" was very much intended to include constructs that might fail on some machines, but would be correct on code which was not intended to be suitable for use with those machines).
On some platforms like the 8051, if a compiler were given a construct like someInt16 += *someUnsignedCharPtr << 4; the most efficient way to process it if it didn't have to accommodate the possibility that the pointer might point to the lower byte of someInt16 would be to fetch *someUnsignedCharPtr, shift it left four bits, add it to the LSB of someInt16 (capturing the carry), reload *someUnsignedCharPtr, shift it right four bits, and add it along with the earlier carry to the MSB of someInt16. Loading the value from *someUnsignedCharPtr twice would be faster than loading it, storing its value to a temporary location before doing the shift, and then having to load its value from that temporary location. If, however, someUnsignedCharPtr were to point to the lower byte of someInt16, then the modification of that lower byte before the second load of someUnsignedCharPtr would corrupt the upper bits of that byte which would, after shifing, be added to the upper byte of someInt16.
The Standard would allow a compiler to generate such code, even though character pointers are exempt from aliasing rules, because it does not require that compilers handle all situations where unsequenced reads and writes affect regions of storage that partially overlap. If such accesses were performed usinng a union instead of a character pointer, a compiler might recognize that the character-type access would always overlap the least significant byte of the 16-bit value, but I don't think the authors of the Standard wanted to require that compilers invest the time and effort that might be necessary to handle such obscure cases meaningfully.