I'm putting the instances behind the aws loadbalancer, I have configured the routable and attached the IGW to it, created the loadbalancer and added this instance to the aws loadbalancer every things work well, the endpoint URL of the AWS loadbalancer able to load the HTTP pages
Now i have removed the IGW from the route table and tested it again, the AWS loadbalalncer endpoint URL not able to load the page, but the instace status shows in AWS loadbalancer as inService
Why the IGW is required when loadbalancer is configured over private subnet, it technically Mean it's a public subnet, which is blocking me to create a NAT inatance
A subnet without a default route pointing to the igw-xxxxxxxx Internet Gateway object is, by definition, a private subnet. If you remove the igw from a public subnet, you now have a private subnet.
Placing an Internet-facing load balancer (ELB) in such a private subnet is incorrect.
It sounds as though you are making a commonly-made -- but incorrect -- assumption that the ELB should be configured in the same subnets as the instances behind it. This is also incorrect.
Provision the ELB in public subnets, without regard to the subnets the instances behind it were placed in.
In summary:
Internet-facing ELB requires a public subnet for placement.
NAT instance requires a public subnet for placement.
The instances that use these services (NAT and ELB) belong in different -- private -- subnets, different subnets than the ELB and NAT instances.
ELB and NAT can be placed together in the same subnets, or separately, as long as the subnets are public (have the IGW as their default route) and are in the same availability zones.
I believe you cannot do anything without the IGW attached to the routing table where the subnet is attached to.
Another way to do this is to spin off a NAT instance(can be found in AWS marketplace) in the public subnet, add it to your private route table where your original instance is on (0.0.0.0/0 - instanceid) all the traffic will be routed through the NAT instance.
Here mainly we have to see two things, provided subnet for the elasticloadbalancer is public or private.
Every VPC should have one IGW to connect to the public, every trafic should go through the IGW only. If VPC connected to the IGW, IGW distribute internet to the all instance which are in that VPC, if route table changed to the particular rt, internet traffic can send to only that instance. Here in ELB instance is in service because both are in the same VPC and can communicate each other means checks the status. This IGW will work main role when we are using the NAT.
Always we provide ip range for the IGW or rt as 0.0.0.0/0, it represents as public.
The following link will explain more : http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonVPC/latest/UserGuide/VPC_Scenario2.html
This small explanation might be helpful for someone.
Let me cover your two questions
the AWS loadbalalncer endpoint URL not able to load the page, but the instace status shows in AWS loadbalancer as inService
This is the default behaviour of load balancer , since internally load balancer and your instance may be in the same VPC so they are able to communicate that is why loadbalancer is showing inService status.
Second question Why the IGW is required when loadbalancer is configured over private subnet, it technically Mean it's a public subnet, which is blocking me to create a NAT inatance
You need IGW if you want to access any resources especially EC2 , Loadbalancer from internet. however if you put your load balancer in private subnet it means IGW is not associated with the subnet having loadbalancer in it and hence this load balancer is not accessible outside your VPC that is reason that you were not able to load your page.
NAT instance is usually used when you want your private subnet instances should be able to initiate request over internet and has nothing to do with normal load balancing setup unless and untill you want dont want to install any updates from internet to your instance.
You are trying to access webpage publicly and removing the route entry IGW from the loadbalncer subnet.
The Subnet without IGW will become Private, Hence you can't access it.
First, a subnet with route table that route traffic via the internet gateway (IGW) is a public subnet. An IGW is required because the subnets created in AWS VPC are internal IPs and as internal IPs are not routable via the internet, traffic to and fro EC2 instances that belongs to an internal IP needs a way to complete these request. This is where an IGW comes into play. The IGW allows your EC2 instance to make outbound request to the internet and allows other user/client to make inbound request to your ec2 instance.
A public subnet are group of IPs (called subnets) in your VPC that allows internet traffic to and fro your ec2 instance. A subnet without an Internet gateway is a private subnet. As you already guess no traffic is allowed in or out.
That said, instances in VPC which are in Private subnet still need to initiate an outbound request to the internet to download software or perform update. In this case you have to create and attach a NAT gateway or NAT instance to the private subnet. NAT Gateway and NAT instance only allow outbound traffic to the internet but not the the other way round. In some cases you might want your production EC2 to be in the private subnet and ELB in public subnet for security reason.
ELB usually belong to the public subnet so it reachable from the internet as is your case as well.
TO answer some of your question - when you deleted the IGW from the route table, your ELB automatically becomes a private subnet as such your web page stops loading.
Also, you could still see the ec2 instance behind the ELB as InService even when you deleted the IGW because the ELB and EC2 instance can communicate via the internal IP as they are in same network or VPC.
The ELB needs a route to the internet in order to send you the response over internet.. As simple as that.
Configure your ELB in public subnet, regardless of where your instances are present.
Basically there are two types of load balancers.
1)Internal
2) External
Internal load balancers are those which are launched in a private subnet which will be accessible only internally by the instances on same vpc of the internal elb
External load balancers are which are accessible over the internet which should be launched in a subnet which has internet gateway attached to it and which has route table configured properly to route the requests.
If you attach an internet gateway to a subnet it becomes a public subnet.Also if you create a load-balancer which you need to be accessible from internet it should be a External load balancer and aws will not allow it launch in a private subnet.The instances are showing in service because its communicating internally using private ip-address.
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Using Terraform to setup a VPC with two EC2s in private subnets. The setup needs to SSH to the EC2s to install package updates from the Internet and install the application software. To do this there is an IGW and a NAT-GW in a public subnet. Both EC2s can access the Internet at this point as both private subnets are routing to the NAT-GW. Terraform and SSH to the private subnets is done via Client VPN.
One of the EC2s is going to host a web service so a Classic mode Load Balancer is added and configured to target the web server EC2. Using Classic mode because I can't find a way to make Terraform build Application mode LBs. The Load Balancer requires the instance to be using a subnet that routes to the IGW, so it is changed from routing to the NAT-GW, to the IGW. At this point, the Load Balancer comes online with the EC2 responding and public Internet can access the web service using the DNS supplied End Point for the LB.
But now the web server EC2 can no longer access the Internet itself. I can't curl google.com or get package updates.
I would like to find a way to let the EC2 access the Internet from behind the LB and not use CloudFront at this time.
I would like to keep the EC2 in a private subnet because a public subnet causes the EC2 to have a public IP address, and I don't want that.
Looking for a way to make LB work without switching subnets, as that would make the EC web service unavailable when doing updates.
Not wanting any iptables or firewalld tricks. I would really like an AWS solution that is disto agnostic.
A few points/clarifications about the problems you're facing:
Instances on a public subnet do not need a NAT Gateway. They can initiate outbound requests to the internet via IGW. NGW is for allowing outbound IPv4 connections from instances in private subnets.
The load balancer itself needs to be on a public subnet. The instances that the LB will route to do not. They can be in the same subnet or different subnets, public or private, as long as traffic is allowed through security groups.
You can create instances without a public IP, on a public subnet. However, they won't be able to receive or send traffic to the internet.
Terraform supports ALBs. The resource is aws_lb with load_balancer_type set to "application" (this is the default option).
That said, the public-private configuration you want is entirely possible.
Your ALB and NAT Gateway need to be on the public subnet, and EC2 instances on the private subnet.
The private subnet's route table needs to have a route to the NGW, to facilitate outbound connections.
EC2 instances' security group needs to allow traffic from the ALB's security group.
It sounds like you got steps 1 and 2 working, so the connection from ALB to EC2 is what you have to work on. See the documentation page here as well - https://docs.aws.amazon.com/vpc/latest/userguide/VPC_Scenario2.html
In our current VPC we are using and ASG and ALB. We have some public subnets and some private subnets. We would like to be able to connect from time to time, those private subnets to pull some patches out of the internet.
Is my understand that the NAT Gateway requires an EIP. The EIP does not seem to be able to play with the ASG, since it spect an instance/IP. Not sure if the ASG is able to link an EC2 ( can be terminated ) to the EIP.
What changes shall I make to allow those private subnets to access internet, considering my constrains?
Changing the ALB for an ELB is not an option!
The Auto Scaling group is responsible for launching and terminate Amazon EC2 instances. It will also update the Load Balancer's Target Group with any new/removed instances.
A NAT Gateway is used to provide Internet access to resources in Private Subnets. An Elastic IP address is assigned to the NAT Gateway and all requests coming through the NAT Gateway will come from that IP address. The NAT Gateway and Elastic IP address are not used with the Load Balancer or Auto Scaling group -- they are totally independent. All EC2 instances in the Private Subnets will only use their normal Private IP addresses.
Hope you are all doing good.
AWS allows us to attach a private subnet (created in a Customer VPC) with a route table having route to the internet via internet gateway. Does it make any difference to the instance launched in the private sub-net? or it is as good as having the private subnet not linked to the route table having route to the internet
Regards
AJ
A subnet is not private if it has routes to/from the internet. The instances launched in a private subnet cannot access the internet and cannot be reached from the internet.
For e.g if you have a database instance and you don't want anyone but the instances to access the instance, you can launch the instance in the private subnets.
Also if you want the instances in the private subnet to access internet, you need to setup a Nat Gateway (or a Nat Instance)
Hope this helps
First, we need to know what's the difference between a public subnet and a private subnet.
Public Subnet means this subnet has an Internet Gateway attached to it.
Private Subnet means this subnet has a NAT Gateway attached to it.
And the Internet Gateway can have both inbound and outbound but the NAT only can have outbound to the Internet.
And A NAT will be built in a public subnet but attach to a private subnet.
You can have lots of public/private subnets at the same time and attached NAT or IGW for them, but the IGW only can have one in each VPC.
In some use cases, we will not attach any kinds of NAT and IGW for a subnet. that's because it might be a database subnet and won't expect it to communicate with the Internet.
Normally, we will use a subnet with NAT attached for our application such as EC2 or ECS, Internal Load Balancers.
On the other hand, we will use a subnet with IGW attached for Internet-facing Load balancers, Nginx, Apache.
AWS VPC Design:
https://aws.amazon.com/tw/answers/networking/aws-single-vpc-design/
I think the hidden magic here is that the instance in the private subnet needs a public IP to communicate with outside, we never ever think this an issue in our lives. When our computer connect to the router, it get access to internet without any issue, why it works so smoothly? All because the router handles everything for us, including allocating a private IP for us, making recursively DNS query for us, and the most important, translating the private IP using the router's public IP so that our computer can communicate with the outside bidirectionally.
Let's go back to this AWS VPC scenario, you attached a route table with a default route to the Internet Gateway to your private subnet, which makes it looks like a public subnet. However, the instances still have no public IPs, and, not like our router, the Internet Gateway of AWS VPC doesn't do NAT works! So how can an instance with no public IP and no NAT access the internet? It's impossible.
Our aim is to get our Elastic Beanstalk setups to route traffic through a NAT gateway as we require for certain traffic connecting to API's which require IP whitelisting. Rather than make modifications to the current setup, I have created a separate/isolated VPC & EC2 instance to familiarise and test the setup. However I am yet to get the setup working as desired.
Here is the setup
VPC (vpc-77049811) with CIDR of 10.0.0.0/16
Internet gateway (igw-4d4b212a) assigned to mentioned VPC
Subnet (subnet-096d8a53) with CIDR of 10.0.1.0/24
NAT Gateway (nat-00bb49204627de7e6) attached to mentioned subnet and assigned Elastic IP
Route table attached to mentioned VPC and associate with mentioned subnet
1x EC2 Instance assigned to VPC and its own Elastic IP and Disabled Source/Destination Check
Route Table Setup
10.0.0.0/16 local
0.0.0.0/0 igw-4d4b212a
With the above setup, and am able to log into the server and make a curl request to get the servers public IP address (curl icanhazip.com). As soon as I add a rule to the route table for the url's resolved IP's to route through the NAT gateway though, I am unable to ping or request the curl request as it will timeout.
Rules added to route table which do not work
45.63.64.111/32 nat-00bb49204627de7e6
144.202.71.30/32 nat-00bb49204627de7e6
Not sure if I've overlooked something here or maybe I have misunderstood the concept and use cases for the NAT gateway?
This is public IP 45.63.64.111. You need IGW to reach to this traffic.
You either do that by directly redirecting your traffic to IGW
OR
You do that by directing to NAT then further directing that traffic to IGW
Directing to IGW part is missing.
Nat gateway is used for EC2 in private subnets (which does not have IGW attached to it). In scenario above, EC2 is in public subnet so ideally it does not need NAT.
Here is what I would do to use NAT-
1. Place EC2 in private subent. and have a Route table where all outgoing traffic to nat-gateway.
2. Nat-gateway which is in public subnet will forward your traffic to IGW.
It seems like you have misunderstood the purpose of a NAT.
Its purpose is to provide outbound internet access to instances in a private subnet without allowing any inbound connectivity - i.e. a subnet where the routing table does NOT have an entry for:
0.0.0.0/0 igw-4d4b212a
If you want to restrict access from your EC2 instance to specific IP addresses, put your NAT in the public subnet, create a private subnet, and put your instance in the private subnet. Then add the two routes to the route table associated with the private subnet:
45.63.64.111/32 nat-00bb49204627de7e6
144.202.71.30/32 nat-00bb49204627de7e6
If you simply want to restrict access of your EC2 instance to a couple of IP addresses, you can only create routes for those addresses:
45.63.64.111/32 igw-4d4b212a
144.202.71.30/32 igw-4d4b212a
Be aware that with this last option, your instance can be reached from the internet if you have rules open in your security groups.
I am trying to setup a nice and secure VPC for my lambda and RDS work. Essentially, I want my lambda to hit a site, get some data, and shove it into a database.
In isolation the parts all work. However the second I go to harden everything it all falls apart. Here is what I do:
Disable "Publically Available" from the RDS instance
Change the RDS instance to only accept connections from inside the VPC using the security group
Associate the lambda with a VPC (this kills the internet access)
Following this tutorial I created a NAT gateway, deleted the internet gateway from the VPC subnet, and replaced it with the NAT. Now, as expected, nothing can talk inbound, but things can talk outbound.
At this point I knew I needed a bastion instance, so I fired up an EC2 instance.
The EC2 instance is set to the same subnet the RDS and Lambda are on, and unfortunately this means that I have a problem - the NAT gateway is currently soaking up all the traffic via 0.0.0.0/0, which means there's no room for the internet gateway. Without the internet gateway I (obviously) can't SSH into my bastion instance so I can jump to access my RDS database.
How can I configure this all correctly? My guess is that I need to split the subnet up somehow and make a private and public subnet, the public having the bastion and internet gateway in it. However, I'm not sure how this will all work so the bastion instance can still properly jump to the RDS.
I'm really quite new to setting up AWS services so I'm hoping I didn't mess anything up long the way.
Following this tutorial I created a NAT gateway, deleted the internet
gateway from the VPC subnet, and replaced it with the NAT. Now, as
expected, nothing can talk inbound, but things can talk outbound.
Short Answer
The short answer is you shouldn't have "Killed the Internet Gateway"; thats not a step in the link you provided :) Leave the internet gateway as is in your current subnet. You're going to need a public subnet and the one that was routing 0.0.0.0/0 to IGW is an example of one you can could use.
The work involved is placing your NAT gateway in the Public Subnet, placing your bastion host in the public subnet, placing your lambda function in the private subnet, routing traffic in the private subnet to the NAT gateway in the public subnet, and providing your lambda function with access to your security group by putting it in its own lambda security group and "white listing" the lambda security group in the inbound rules for the security group protecting your database.
Background
Below I have an expanded answer providing background as to public/private subnets, granting internet access to private subnets, and allowing lambda access through security groups. If you don't feel like reading the background then jump to very end where I give a bullet point summary of the steps you'll need.
Public Subnet
A public subnet is one in which traffic originating outside your VPC, or destined for a target outside your VPC (internet), is routed through an internet gateway (IGW). AWS gives you initial default public subnets configured this way; you can identify them in the console by looking at their route table and seeing that under "destination" you find "0.0.0.0/0" targeting an IGW. This means a public subnet is more of a design pattern for "internet accessible" subnet made possible by simply configuring its default route to point to an IGW. If you wish to create a new public subnet you can create a new route table as well that point internet traffic at an IGW and link that route table to your new subnet. This is fairly easy in the console.
Private Subnet
A private subnet is a subnet with no IGW and not directly reachable from the internet, meaning you cannot connect to a public IP address of a system on a private subnet. With the exception of the AWS pre-configured default subnets, this is how new subnets your manually create are setup, as black boxes till you specify otherwise.
Granting Internet Access to Private Subnet
When you want things in your private subnet to be able to reach out to external internet services you can do this by using an intermediary known as a NAT gateway. Configure a route table the same as in the public subnet with the only difference being traffic destined for 0.0.0.0/0(Internet) you target for a NAT gateway sitting inside the public subnet. That last part is critical. Your NAT gateway needs to be in the public subnet but your private subnet is using it as the target for external traffic.
Security Group Access for Lambda
One simple way to allow your lambda function through your security group/firewall is to create a security group just for your lambda function and configure the security group protecting your RDS so that it allows traffic from the lambda security group.
In other words, in security group settings you don't have to specify just IP addresses as sources, you can specify other security groups and this is a pretty neat way of grouping items without having to know their IP address. Your lambda functions can run in the "Lambda Security Group" and anything protected by a security group that you want them to access can be configured to accept traffic from the "Lambda Security Group". Just make sure you actually associate your lambda function with the lambda security group as well as place it in the private subnet.
Lambda VPC Steps in a Nutshetll
Create a new NAT gateway and place it in the public subnet. This
point is important, the NAT gateway goes in the public subnet ( a
subnet whose route table routes 0.0.0.0/0 to an IGW)
Create a new subnet, you can call it Private-Lambda-Subnet. Unlike
the
default pre-configured subnets AWS gives you, this new subnet is
immediately private out of the box.
Create a new route table and link it to your Private-Lambda-Subnet
In the new route table for your private subnet add an entry that
routes 0.0.0.0/0 to a target of the NAT gateway. This is how your
private subnet will indirectly access the internet, by forwarding
traffic to the NAT which will then forward it to the IGW.
Your bastion host and anything else you want to be be publicly
accessible will need to be in the public subnet. This is probably
where you already have your RDS instances, which is fine if they are
firewalled/security group protected.
Create a new security group for your lambda function(s). You can
call it LambdaSecurityGroup.
Configure the inbound rules of your RDS guarding security group to
allow traffic from the LambdaSecurityGroup. This is possible because
you can use other security groups as sources in the firewall
settings, not just ip addresses.
You need a public subnet (default route is the Internet Gateway) and a private subnet (default route is the NAT Gateway). The NAT Gateway, itself, goes on the public subnet, so that it can access the Internet on behalf of the other subnets for which it is providing services. The bastion also goes on the public subnet, but Lambda and RDS go on the private subnet.
Anything can talk to anything on any subnet within a VPC as long as security groups allow it (and Network ACLs, but don't change these unless you have a specific reason to -- if you aren't sure, then the default settings are sufficient).