Rotation matrix to euler angles - c++

I use the following code to convert a 3X3 rotation matrix to angles :
(_r = double[9] )
double angleZ=atan2(_r[3], _r[4])* (float) (180.0 / CV_PI);
double angleX=180-asin(-1*_r[5])* (float) (180.0 / CV_PI);
double angleY=180-atan2(_r[2],_r[8])* (float) (180.0 / CV_PI);
here is a little helper
_r[0] _r[1] _r[2]
_r[3] _r[4] _r[5]
_r[6] _r[7] _r[8]
does this make any sense ? cause the angles seem too... interdependent ? x y z all react to single pose change...
the rotation matrix is received from opencv cvPOSIT function so the points of interest might be wrong and giving this confusing effect ...
but somehow i think im just doing the conversion wrong :)
I am applying the angles in opengl to a cube :
glRotatef(angleX,1.0f,0.0f,0.0f);
glRotatef(angleY,0.0f,1.0f,0.0f);
glRotatef(angleZ,0.0f,0.0f,1.0f);

What you are trying to accomplish is not as easy as you might think. There are multiple conventions as to what the euler angles are called (x,y,z,alpha,beta,gamma,yaw,pitch,roll,heading,elevation,bank,...) and in which order they need to be applied.
The are also some problems with ambiguities in certain positions, see Wikpedia article on Gimbal Lock.
Please read the Euler Angle Formulas document by David Eberly. Its very useful and includes a lot of formulas for various conventions and you probably should base your code on them if you want to have stable formulas even in the corner cases.

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Robust atan(y,x) on GLSL for converting XY coordinate to angle

In GLSL (specifically 3.00 that I'm using), there are two versions of
atan(): atan(y_over_x) can only return angles between -PI/2, PI/2, while atan(y/x) can take all 4 quadrants into account so the angle range covers everything from -PI, PI, much like atan2() in C++.
I would like to use the second atan to convert XY coordinates to angle.
However, atan() in GLSL, besides not able to handle when x = 0, is not very stable. Especially where x is close to zero, the division can overflow resulting in an opposite resulting angle (you get something close to -PI/2 where you suppose to get approximately PI/2).
What is a good, simple implementation that we can build on top of GLSL atan(y,x) to make it more robust?
I'm going to answer my own question to share my knowledge. We first notice that the instability happens when x is near zero. However, we can also translate that as abs(x) << abs(y). So first we divide the plane (assuming we are on a unit circle) into two regions: one where |x| <= |y| and another where |x| > |y|, as shown below:
We know that atan(x,y) is much more stable in the green region -- when x is close to zero we simply have something close to atan(0.0) which is very stable numerically, while the usual atan(y,x) is more stable in the orange region. You can also convince yourself that this relationship:
atan(x,y) = PI/2 - atan(y,x)
holds for all non-origin (x,y), where it is undefined, and we are talking about atan(y,x) that is able to return angle value in the entire range of -PI,PI, not atan(y_over_x) which only returns angle between -PI/2, PI/2. Therefore, our robust atan2() routine for GLSL is quite simple:
float atan2(in float y, in float x)
{
bool s = (abs(x) > abs(y));
return mix(PI/2.0 - atan(x,y), atan(y,x), s);
}
As a side note, the identity for mathematical function atan(x) is actually:
atan(x) + atan(1/x) = sgn(x) * PI/2
which is true because its range is (-PI/2, PI/2).
Depending on your targeted platform, this might be a solved problem. The OpenGL spec for atan(y, x) specifies that it should work in all quadrants, leaving behavior undefined only when x and y are both 0.
So one would expect any decent implementation to be stable near all axes, as this is the whole purpose behind 2-argument atan (or atan2).
The questioner/answerer is correct in that some implementations do take shortcuts. However, the accepted solution makes the assumption that a bad implementation will always be unstable when x is near zero: on some hardware (my Galaxy S4 for example) the value is stable when x is near zero, but unstable when y is near zero.
To test your GLSL renderer's implementation of atan(y,x), here's a WebGL test pattern. Follow the link below and as long as your OpenGL implementation is decent, you should see something like this:
Test pattern using native atan(y,x): http://glslsandbox.com/e#26563.2
If all is well, you should see 8 distinct colors (ignoring the center).
The linked demo samples atan(y,x) for several values of x and y, including 0, very large, and very small values. The central box is atan(0.,0.)--undefined mathematically, and implementations vary. I've seen 0 (red), PI/2 (green), and NaN (black) on hardware I've tested.
Here's a test page for the accepted solution. Note: the host's WebGL version lacks mix(float,float,bool), so I added an implementation that matches the spec.
Test pattern using atan2(y,x) from accepted answer: http://glslsandbox.com/e#26666.0
Your proposed solution still fails in the case x=y=0. Here both of the atan() functions return NaN.
Further I would not rely on mix to switch between the two cases. I am not sure how this is implemented/compiled, but IEEE float rules for x*NaN and x+NaN result again in NaN. So if your compiler really used mix/interpolation the result should be NaN for x=0 or y=0.
Here is another fix which solved the problem for me:
float atan2(in float y, in float x)
{
return x == 0.0 ? sign(y)*PI/2 : atan(y, x);
}
When x=0 the angle can be ±π/2. Which of the two depends on y only. If y=0 too, the angle can be arbitrary (vector has length 0). sign(y) returns 0 in that case which is just ok.
Sometimes the best way to improve the performance of a piece of code is to avoid calling it in the first place. For example, one of the reasons you might want to determine the angle of a vector is so that you can use this angle to construct a rotation matrix using combinations of the angle's sine and cosine. However, the sine and cosine of a vector (relative to the origin) are already hidden in plain sight inside the vector itself. All you need to do is to create a normalized version of the vector by dividing each vector coordinate by the total length of the vector. Here's the two-dimensional example to calculate the sine and cosine of the angle of vector [ x y ]:
double length = sqrt(x*x + y*y);
double cos = x / length;
double sin = y / length;
Once you have the sine and cosine values, you can now directly populate a rotation matrix with these values to perform a clockwise or counterclockwise rotation of arbitrary vectors by the same angle, or you can concatenate a second rotation matrix to rotate to an angle other than zero. In this case, you can think of the rotation matrix as "normalizing" the angle to zero for an arbitrary vector. This approach is extensible to the three-dimensional (or N-dimensional) case as well, although for example you will have three angles and six sin/cos pairs to calculate (one angle per plane) for 3D rotation.
In situations where you can use this approach, you get a big win by bypassing the atan calculation completely, which is possible since the only reason you wanted to determine the angle was to calculate the sine and cosine values. By skipping the conversion to angle space and back, you not only avoid worrying about division by zero, but you also improve precision for angles which are near the poles and would otherwise suffer from being multiplied/divided by large numbers. I've successfully used this approach in a GLSL program which rotates a scene to zero degrees to simplify a computation.
It can be easy to get so caught up in an immediate problem that you can lose sight of why you need this information in the first place. Not that this works in every case, but sometimes it helps to think out of the box...
A formula that gives an angle in the four quadrants for any value
of coordinates x and y. For x=y=0 the result is undefined.
f(x,y)=pi()-pi()/2*(1+sign(x))* (1-sign(y^2))-pi()/4*(2+sign(x))*sign(y)
-sign(x*y)*atan((abs(x)-abs(y))/(abs(x)+abs(y)))

Converting quaternions to Euler angles. Problems with the range of Y angle

I'm trying to write a 3d simulation in C++ using Irrlicht as graphic engine and ODE for physics. Then I'm using a function to convert ODE quaternions to Irrlicht Euler angles. In order to do this, I'm using this code.
void QuaternionToEuler(const dQuaternion quaternion, vector3df &euler)
{
dReal w,x,y,z;
w = quaternion[0];
x = quaternion[1];
y = quaternion[2];
z = quaternion[3];
double sqw = w*w;
double sqx = x*x;
double sqy = y*y;
double sqz = z*z;
euler.Z = (irr::f32) (atan2(2.0 * (x*y + z*w),(sqx - sqy - sqz + sqw)) * (180.0f/irr::core::PI));
euler.X = (irr::f32) (atan2(2.0 * (y*z + x*w),(-sqx - sqy + sqz + sqw)) * (180.0f/irr::core::PI));
euler.Y = (irr::f32) (asin(-2.0 * (x*z - y*w)) * (180.0f/irr::core::PI));
}
It works fine for drawing in the correct position and rotation but the problems come with the asin instruction. It only return values in the range of 0..90 - 0..-90 and I need to get a range from 0..360 degrees. At least I need to get a rotation in the range of 0..360 when I call node->getRotation().Y.
Euler angles (of any type) have a singularity. In the case of those particular Euler angles that you are using (which look like Tait-Bryan angles, or some variation thereof), the singularity is at plus-minus 90 degrees of pitch (Y). This is an inherent limitation with Euler angles and one of the prime reasons why they are rarely used in any serious context (except in aircraft dynamics because all aircraft have a very limited ability to pitch w.r.t. their velocity vector (which might not be horizontal), so they rarely come anywhere near that singularity).
This also means that your calculation is actually just one of two equivalent solutions. For a given quaternion, there are two solutions for Euler angles that represent that same rotation, one on one side of the singularity and another that mirrors the first. Since both solutions are equivalent, you just pick the one on the easiest side, i.e., where the pitch is between -90 and 90 degrees.
Also, you code needs to deal with approaching the singularity in order to avoid getting NaN. In other words, you must check if you are getting close (with a small tolerance) to the singular points (-90 and 90 degrees on pitch), and if so, use an alternate formula (which can only compute one angle that best approximates the rotation).
If there is any way for you to avoid using Euler angles altogether, I highly suggest that you do that, pretty much any representation of rotations is preferable to Euler angles. Irrlicht uses matrices natively and also supports setting/getting rotations via an axis-angle representation, this is much nicer to work with (and much easier to obtain from a quaternion, and doesn't have singularities).
Think about the earth's globe. Each point on it can be defined only usin latitude(in the range [-90, 90]) and longitude(in the range [-180, 180]). So each point on a sphere may be specified by using these angles. Now a point on a sphere specifies a vector and all points on a sphere specify all possible vectors. So just like pointed out in this article, the formula you use will generate all possible directions.
Hope this helps.

OpenGL + SDL rotation around local axis

I've been working on a semi flight simulator. What I am trying to do is use a pitch roll and yaw to rotate an object. I have already looked online a lot, and although they explain what the problem is I have no idea how to implement the solution. So for example I do:
glRotatef(yaw,0,1,0);
glRotatef(pitch,1,0,0);
The yaw doesn't act properly, the pitch will work fine. And from what I have been reading it seems that the objects local axis has been changed so I need to find the object's new local axis and rotate around that. So I tried that with something like:
newpitch=pitch/57.29
VectorA(0,cos(newpitch)-sin(newpitch),sin(newpitch)+cos(newpitch));
glRotatef(yaw,vec.getXAxis(),vec.getYAxis(),vec.getZAxis());
glRotatef(pitch,1,0,0);
This seems to not work either.
I've also tried making a general rotation matrix and giving it both pitch and yaw and still the same problem. And I've tried using quaternions and the same problem still exists!
Here is my code for quaternions:
void Quat::eulerToQuat(float roll,float pitch,float yaw){
float radiansY = yaw/57.2;
float radiansZ = roll/57.2;
float radiansX = pitch/57.2;
float sY = sinf(radiansY * 0.5);
float cY = cosf(radiansY * 0.5);
float sZ = sinf(radiansZ * 0.5);
float cZ = cosf(radiansZ * 0.5);
float sX = sinf(radiansX * 0.5);
float cX = cosf(radiansX * 0.5);
w = cY * cZ * cX - sY * sZ * sX;
x = sY * sZ * cX + cY * cZ * sX;
y = sY * cZ * cX + cY * sZ * sX;
z = cY * sZ * cX - sY * cZ * sX;
}
Then I converted this into a matrix and use glMultMatrix(matrix) with the modelview matrix, and this has the same problem. So I'm confident it wouldn't be gimble lock =).
So in my code I do:
float matrix[4][4];
Quat this;
this.eularToQuat(roll,pitch,yaw);
this.toMatrix(matrix);
glMultMatrix(matrix);
I think you're referring to gimbal lock? You're right that each rotation modifies the axes around which subsequent local rotations will occur. In your case that affects the yaw because the OpenGL matrix stack works so that each thing you add to it occurs conceptually before whatever is already on the stack (ie, it's post multiplication in matrix terms).
Your solution, however, won't solve the problem even if implemented correctly. What you're trying to do is get the global y axis in local coordinate space so that you can rotate around the global y even after you've rotated around the global z, shifting the local axes. But that just buys you much the same problems as if you'd stuck with global axes throughout and applied the rotations in the other order. The second rotation will now interfere with the first rather than vice versa.
Another way to convince yourself that what you're doing is wrong is to look at how much information you have. You're trying to describe the orientation of an object with two numbers. Two numbers isn't enough to describe any rotation whatsoever, so there's obviously some other rule in there to convert two numbers into a complete orientation. Whatever you do to modify that rule, you're going to end up limiting the orientations you can reach. But with an aeroplane you really want to be able to reach any orientation, so that's a fundamental contradiction.
The confusion comes because, if you have a suitable way of storing orientation, it's completely valid to work forward from that by saying 'what is the orientation if I modify that by rotating around local y by 5, then around local z by 10?', etc. The problem is trying to aggregate all those transformations into a single pair of rotations. It isn't possible.
The easiest solution if you're already generally up on OpenGL tends to be to store the orientation as a complete matrix. You accumulate pitch and yaw rotations by applying them as they occur to that matrix. You pass that matrix to OpenGL via glMultMatrix to perform your drawing.
It's not an optimal solution but a quick fix test solution would be to use glLoadMatrix and glGet to apply transformations by loading your matrix to and then retrieving it from the OpenGL matrix stack, separately from your drawing. It's not really what the stack is for so you'll probably get some performance problems and over time rounding errors will cause odd behaviour but you can fix those once you're persuaded by the approach. The OpenGL man pages give the formulas for all transformation matrices and you should look up matrix normalisation (you'll probably be using an orthonormal matrix whether you realise it or not, which should help with Google) to deal with cumulative rounding.
EDIT: with respect to the code you've posted while I was rambling, quaternions are another valid way of representing orientation and another thing that you can apply incremental updates to safely. They're also compact very easy to protect from rounding errors. However I think your problem may be that you aren't using quaternions as the storage for orientation, merely as an intermediate container. So adding them to the chain doesn't fix any of your problems.
EDIT2: a further bit of hand-waving explanation to push the idea that directly storing pitch and yaw isn't good enough: imagine that, from the point of view of the pilot, you apply a yaw of 90 degrees, then a pitch of 30 degrees, then a yaw of -90 degrees. Then you end up exactly as if you'd applied a roll of 30 degrees. But if you're just storing pitch and yaw then you've no way of storing roll. Furthermore, if you just add up the total yaw and total pitch you end up thinking you've applied a pitch of 30 degrees rather than a roll. So it doesn't matter what order you apply pitch and yaw, or whether you use global or local axes, you get the wrong result.
You should yaw, pitch and roll using one transformation. Cause when you don't, you'll pushing yourself towards gimbal lock. Excerpt:
Gimbal lock is the loss of one degree of freedom in a
three-dimensional space that occurs when the axes of two of the three
gimbals are driven into a parallel configuration, "locking" the system
into rotation in a degenerate two-dimensional space.
Consider this example of Gimbal locked airplane:
When the pitch (green) and yaw (magenta)
gimbals become aligned, changes to roll (blue) and yaw apply the same
rotation to the airplane

Confused about degrees and OpenGL/GLUT camera movement/rotation

NOTICE: I have edited the question below which is more relevant to my real issue than the text right below, you can skip this if you but I'll leave it here for historic reasons.
To see if I get this right, a float in C is the same as a value in radians right? I mean, 360º = 6.28318531 radians and I just noticed on my OpenGL app that a full rotation goes from 0.0 to 6.28, which seems to add up correctly. I just want to make sure I got that right.
I'm using a float (let's call it anglePitch) from 0.0 to 360.0 (it's easier to read in degrees and avoids casting int to float all the time) and all the code I see on the web uses some kind of DEG2RAD() macro which is defined as DEG2RAD 3.141593f / 180. In the end it would be something like this:
anglePitch += direction * 1; // direction will be 1 or -1
refY = tan(anglePitch * DEG2RAD);
This really does a full rotation but that full rotation will be when anglePitch = 180 and anglePitch * DEG2RAD = 3.14, but a full rotation should be 360|6.28. If I change the macro to any of the following:
#define DEG2RAD 3.141593f / 360
#define DEG2RAD 3.141593f / 2 / 180
It works as expected, a full rotation will happen when anglePitch = 360.
What am I missing here and what should I use to properly convert angles to radians/floats?
IMPORTANT EDIT (REAL QUESTION):
I understand now the code I see everywhere on the web about DEG2RAD, I'm just too dumb at math (yeah, I know, it's important when working with this kind of stuff). So I'm going to rephrase my question:
I have now added this to my code:
#define PI 3.141592654f
#define DEG2RAD(d) (d * PI / 180)
Now, when working the pitch/yawn angles in degrees, which are floats, once again, to avoid casting all the time, I just use the DEG2RAD macro and the degree value will be correctly converted to radians. These values will be passed to sin/cos/tan functions and will return the proper values to be used in GLUT camera.
Now the real question, where I was really confused before but couldn't explain myself better:
angleYaw += direction * ROTATE_SPEED;
refX = sin(DEG2RAD(angleYaw));
refZ = -cos(DEG2RAD(angleYaw));
This code will be executed when I press the LEFT/RIGHT keys and the camera will rotate in the Y axis accordingly. A full rotation goes from 0º to 360º.
anglePitch += direction * ROTATE_SPEED;
refY = tan(DEG2RAD(anglePitch));
This is similar code and will be executed when I press the UP/DOWN keys and the camera will rotate in the X axis. But in this situation, a full rotation goes from 0º to 180º degrees and that's what's really confusing me. I'm sure it has something to do with the tangent function but I can't get my head around it.
Is there way I could use sin/cos (as I do in the yawn code) to achieve the same rotation? What is the right way, the most simple code I can add/fix and what makes more sense to create a full pitch rotation from 0º to 360º?
360° = 2 * Pi, Pi = 3.141593…
Radians are defined by the arc length of an angle along a circle of radius 1. The circumfence of a circle is 2*r*Pi, so one full turn on a unit circle has an arc length of 2*Pi = 6.28…
The measure of angles in degrees stem from the fact, that by aligning 6 equilateral triangles you span a full turn. So we have 6 triangles, each making up a 6th of the turn, so the old babylonians divided a circle into pieces of 1/(6*6) = 1/36, and to further refine it this was subdivded by 10. That's why we ended up with 360° in a full circle. This number is arbitrarily choosen, though.
So if there are 2*Pi/360° this makes Pi/180° = 3.141593…/180° which is the conversion factor from degrees to radians. The reciprocal, 180°/Pi = 180/3.141593…
Why on earth the old OpenGL function glRotate and GLU's gluPerspective used degrees instead of radians I cannot fathom. From a mathematical point of view only radians make sense. Which I think is most beautifully demonstrated by Euler's equation
e^(i*Pi) - 1 = 0
There you have it, all the important numbers of mathematics in one single equation. What's this got to do with angles? Well:
e^(i*alpha) = cos(alpha) + i * sin(alpha), alpha is in radians!
EDIT, with respect to modified question:
Your angles being floats is all fine. Why would you even think degress being integers I cannot understand. Normally you don't have to define PI yourself, it comes predefined in math.h, usually called M_PI, M_2PI, and M_PI2 for Pi, 2*Pi and Pi/2. You also should change your macro, the way it's written now can create strange effects.
#define DEG2RAD(d) ( (d) * M_PI/180. )
GLUT has no camera at all. GLUT is a rather dumb OpenGL framework I recommend not using. You probably refer to gluLookAt.
Those obstacles out of the way let's see what you're doing there. Remember that trigonometric functions operate on the unit circle. Let the angle 0 point towards the right and angles increment counterclockwise. Then sin(a) is defined as the amount of rightwards and cos(a) and the amount of forwards to reach the point at angle a on the unit circle. This is what the refX and refZ are getting assigned to.
refY however makes no sense written that way. tan = sin/cos so as we approach n*pi/2 (i.e. 90°) it diverges to +/- infinity. At least it explains your pi/180° cyclic range, because that's the period of tan.
I was first thinking that tan may have been used to normalize the direction vector, but didn't make sense either. The factor would have been 1./sqrt(sin²(Pitch) + 1)
I double checked: using tan there does the right thing.
EDIT2: I don't see where your problem is: The pitch angle is -90° to +90°, which makes perfect sense. Go get yourself a globe (of the earth): The east-west coordinates (longitude) go from -180° to +180°, the south-north coordinate (latitude) goes -90° to +90°. Think about it: Any larger coordinate range would create ambiguities.
The only good suggestion I offer you is: Grab some math text book and bend your mind around spherical coordinates! Sorry to tell you that way. Whatever you have works perfectly fine, you just need to understand sperical geometry.
You're using the terms Yaw and Pitch. Those are normally used in Euler angles. Now unfortunately Euler angles, which compelling at first, cause serious trouble later on (like gimbal lock). You should not use them at all. It may also be a good idea if you used some pencil/sticks/whatever to decompose the rotations you're intending with your hands to understand their mechanics.
And by the way: There are also non-integer degrees. Just hop over to http://maps.google.com to see them in action (just select some place and let http://maps.google.com give you the link to it).
'float' is a type, like int or double. radians and degrees are units of measure, both of which can be represented with any precision you want. i.e., there's no reason you can't have 22.5 degrees, and keep that value in a float.
a full rotation in radians is 2*pi, about 6.283, whereas a full rotation in degrees is 360. You can convert between them by dividing out the starting unit's full circle, then multiplying by the desired unit's full circle.
for example, to get from 90 degrees to radians, first divide out the degrees. 90 over 360 is 0.25 (note this value is in 'revolutions'). Now multiply that 0.25 by 6.283 to arrive at 1.571 radians.
follow up
the reason you're seeing your pitch cycle twice as fast as it should is precisely because you're using tan(pitch) to compute the Y component. What you should have is that the Y component depends on sin(pitch). i.e., try changing
refY = tan(DEG2RAD(anglePitch));
to
refY = sin(DEG2RAD(anglePitch));
a technical detail: the numbers that go into the look matrix should all be in the range of -1 to +1, and if you were to inspect the values you're feeding to refY, and run your pitch outside of -45 to +45 degrees, you'd see the problem; tan() runs off to infinity at +/-90 degrees.
also, note that casting a value from int to float in no sense converts between degrees and radians. casting just gives you the nearest equivalent value in the new storage type. for example, if you cast the integer 22 to floating point, you get 22.0f, whereas if you cast 33.3333f to type int, you'd be left with 33. when working with angles, you really should just stick with floating point, unless you're constrained by working with an embedded processor or something. this is especially important with radians, where whole number increments represent leaps of (about) 57.3 degrees.
Assuming that your ref components are intended to be used as your look-at vector, I think what you need is
refY = sin(DEG2RAD(anglePitch));
XZfactor = cos(DEG2RAD(anglePitch));
refX = XZfactor*sin(DEG2RAD(angleYaw));
refZ = -XZfactor*cos(DEG2RAD(angleYaw));

Direct3D - How do I calculate Roll from View Matrix?

This one has been eating up my entire night, and I'm finally throwing up my hands for some assistance. Basically, it's fairly straightforward to calculate the Pitch and Yaw from the View Matrix right after you do a camera update:
D3DXMatrixLookAtLH(&m_View, &sCam.pos, &vLookAt, &sCam.up);
pDev->SetTransform(D3DTS_VIEW, &m_View);
// Set the camera axes from the view matrix
sCam.right.x = m_View._11;
sCam.right.y = m_View._21;
sCam.right.z = m_View._31;
sCam.up.x = m_View._12;
sCam.up.y = m_View._22;
sCam.up.z = m_View._32;
sCam.look.x = m_View._13;
sCam.look.y = m_View._23;
sCam.look.z = m_View._33;
// Calculate yaw and pitch and roll
float lookLengthOnXZ = sqrtf( sCam.look.z^2 + sCam.look.x^2 );
fPitch = atan2f( sCam.look.y, lookLengthOnXZ );
fYaw = atan2f( sCam.look.x, sCam.look.z );
So my problem is: there must be some way to obtain the Roll in radians similar to how the Pitch and Yaw are being obtained at the end of the code there. I've tried several dozen algorithms that seemed to make sense to me, but none of them gave quite the desired result. I realize that many developers don't track these values, however I am writing some re-centering routines and setting clipping based on the values, and manual tracking breaks down as you apply mixed rotations to the View Matrix. So, does anyone have the formula for getting the Roll in radians (or degrees, I don't care) from the View Matrix?
Woohoo, got it! Thank you stacker for the link to the Euler Angles entry on Wikipedia, the gamma formula at the end was indeed the correct solution! So, to calculate Roll in radians from a "vertical plane" I'm using the following line of C++ code:
fRoll = atan2f( sCam.up.y, sCam.right.y ) - D3DX_PI/2;
As Euler pointed out, you're looking for the arc tangent of the Y (up) matrix's Z value against the X (right) matrix's Z value - though in this case I tried the Z values and they did not yield the desired result so I tried the Y values on a whim and I got a value which was off by +PI/2 radians (right angle to the desired value), which is easily compensated for. Finally I have a gryscopically accurate and stable 3D camera platform with self-correcting balance. =)
It seems the Wikipedia article about Euler angles contains the formula you're lookin for at the end.