In the book about Communicating Sequential Processes a lot of time is spent defining events, which have no direction and can involve multiple independent processes.
Only in chapter 4 are channels introduced, which are directed and involve 2 processes.
Yet all implementations of CSP including occam, Go, LuaCSP and clojure.core.async only implement channels.
Even though most practical problems can be solved with (broadcast) channels, I wonder why the book spends so much time on them while nobody uses them.
Well first of all the book happened before the implementations. Therefore your question is better formulated as:
Why does no implementation of CSP put a major focus on events even though the book emphazises them greatly.
Basically, making events a first-class citizen of a language gives it a certain usage specificity that would probably be too narrow for a general purpose programming language.
Additionally, you can easily implement events on channels (and other constructs), in case you are into event driven programming.
In Occam-pi, barriers are an important adjunct to channels. With a barrier, each enrolled process waits on the barrier until they have all done so. At this point they are all released. This is an example of a non-channel form of CSP event.
Occam-pi also has an extended rendezvous using channels. This is a quite different pattern of usage of channels, very similar to the rendezvous in Ada.
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I'm recently learn F# asynchronous workflows, which is an important feature of F# concurrency. What confused me is that how many approaches to write concurrent code in F#? I read Except F#, and some blog about F# concurrency, I know things like background workers; IAsyncResult; If programming on local machine, there is shard-memory concurrency in F#; If programming on distributed system, there is message-passing concurrency. But I really not sure what is the relationship between these techniques, and how to classify them. I understand it is quite a "big" question cannot be answer with one or two sentences, so I would definitely appreciate if anyone can give me specific answer or recommend me some useful references.
I'm also rather new to F#, so I hope more answers come to complement this one :)
The first thing is you need to distinguish between .NET classes (which can be used from any .NET language) and F# unique ways to deal with asynchronous operations. In the first case as you mention and among others, you have:
System.ComponentModel.BackgroundWorker: This was used mainly in the first .NET versions with Windows Forms and it's not recommended anymore.
System.IAsyncResult: This is also an old .NET interface implemented by several classes (also Task) but I don't usually use it directly.
Windows.Foundation.IAsyncOperation: Another interface but used only in Windows Store apps. Most of the times you translate it directly to Task, so you don't have to worry too much about it.
System.Threading.Tasks.Task: This is the recommended way now to handle .NET asynchronous and parallel (with the Parallel Task Library) operations. It's the hidden force behind C# async/await keywords, which are just syntactic sugar to pass continuations to Tasks.
So now with F# unique ways: Asynchronous Workflows and MailboxProcessor. It can roughly be said the former corresponds to parallelism while the latter deals with concurrency.
Asynchronous Workflows: This is just a computation expression (aka monad) which happens to deal with asynchrony: operations that run in the background to prevent blocking the UI thread or parallel operations to get the maximum performance in multi-core systems.
It's more or less the equivalent to C# async/await but we F# fans like to think it's a more elegant solution because it uses a more generic and flexible mechanism (computation expressions) which can be adapted for example to asynchronous sequences, events or even Javascript callbacks. It has also other advantages as Thomas Petricek explains here.
Within an asynchronous workflow most of the time you'll be using the methods in Control.Async or the extensions to .NET classes (like WebRequest.AsyncGetResponse) from the F# Core Library. If necessary, you can also interact directly with .NET Tasks (Async.AwaitTask and Async.StartAsTask) or even easily create your own async operations with Async.StartWithContinuations.
To learn more about asynchronous workflows you can consult the MSDN documentation, the magnificent Scott Wlaschin's site, Tomas Petricek's blog or the F# Wikibook.
Control.MailboxProcessor: Designed to deal with concurrency, that is, several processes running at the same time which usually need to share some information. The traditional .NET way to prevent memory corruption when several threads try to write a variable at the same time was the lock statement. Besides the fact that functional style prefers to use immutable values, memory locks are complicated to use properly and can also have a high performance penalty. So instead of this, MailboxProcessor uses an Erlang-like message-based (or actor-based) approach to concurrency.
I have not used MailboxProcessor myself that much, but for more info you can check Scott Wlaschin's site or the F# Wikibook.
I hope this helps! If someone sees something not completely correct in this answer, please feel free to edit it.
Cheers!
Can anyone help me on design patterns commonly used for RTOS?
In VXworks, which pattern is more preferable?
Can we ignore the second sentence in your question? It is meaningless, and perhaps points to a misunderstanding of design patterns. The first part is interesting however. That said, I would generalise it to cover real-time systems rather than RTOS.
Many of the most familiar patterns are mechanistic, but in real-time systems higher-level architectural patterns are also important.
Bruce Powell Douglass is probably the foremost author on the subject of patterns for real time systems. If you want a flavour of what he has to say on the subject then read this article on Embedded.com (it is part three of a series of three; be sure to read the first two as well, since they also touch on the subject, (1) (2)). You could also do worst than to visit Embedded.com and enter "design patterns" into the search box, there are a number of articles on specific patterns and general articles on the subject.
While I think you are being far to specific in requesting patterns for "RTOS(VxWorks)", patterns I have used specifically with VxWorks are the Facade and Adapter patterns. Partly to provide an OO API, and also to provide a level of RTOS agnostic abstraction. The resulting classes were then implemented for Segger emBOS (to allow us to run a smaller, lower cost, royalty free RTOS), and both Windows and Linux to allow test, debug and simulation of the code in a richer environment with more powerful tools.
A non-exhaustive list of many patterns is provided on Wikipedia, many of which will be applicable to real-time systems. The listed concurrency patterns are most obviously relevant.
As Mike DeSimone commented, way too generic. However, here are couple things to keep in mind for a RTOS (not just VxWorks).
Avoid doing too much in the ISR. If possible pass on some of the processing to a waiting task.
Keep multithreading optimal. Too much and you have context switching overhead. Too little and your problem solution may be complicated.
Another important aspect is keeping the RTOS predictable and understandable for the user. Typically you see fixed-priority schedulers that do not try to be fair or adaptive, but rather do exactly as told and if you mess up with priorities and starve some task, so be it. Time to complete kernel operations tend to be short and predictable, often documented with their worst-case execution times.
I'm currently writing a large multi threaded C++ program (> 50K LOC).
As such I've been motivated to read up alot on various techniques for handling multi-threaded code. One theory I've found to be quite cool is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicating_sequential_processes
And it's invented by a slightly famous guy, who's made other non-trivial contributions to concurrent programming.
However, is CSP used in practice? Can anyone point to any large application written in a CSP style?
Thanks!
CSP, as a process calculus, is fundamentally a theoretical thing that enables us to formalize and study some aspects of a parallel program.
If you instead want a theory that enables you to build distributed programs, then you should take a look to parallel structured programming.
Parallel structural programming is the base of the current HPC (high-performance computing) research and provides to you a methodology about how to approach and design parallel programs (essentially, flowcharts of communicating computing nodes) and runtime systems to implements them.
A central idea in parallel structured programming is that of algorithmic skeleton, developed initially by Murray Cole. A skeleton is a thing like a parallel design pattern with a cost model associated and (usually) a run-time system that supports it. A skeleton models, study and supports a class of parallel algorithms that have a certain "shape".
As a notable example, mapreduce (made popular by Google) is just a kind of skeleton that address data parallelism, where a computation can be described by a map phase (apply a function f to all elements that compose the input data), and a reduce phase (take all the transformed items and "combine" them using an associative operator +).
I found the idea of parallel structured programming both theoretical sound and practical useful, so I'll suggest to give a look to it.
A word about multi-threading: since skeletons addresses massive parallelism, usually they are implemented in distributed memory instead of shared. Intel has developed a tool, TBB, which address multi-threading and (partially) follows the parallel structured programming framework. It is a C++ library, so probably you can just start using it in your projects.
Yes and no. The basic idea of CSP is used quite a bit. For example, thread-safe queues in one form or another are frequently used as the primary (often only) communication mechanism to build a pipeline out of individual processes (threads).
Hoare being Hoare, however, there's quite a bit more to his original theory than that. He invented a notation for talking about the processes, defined a specific set of signals that can be sent between the processes, and so on. The notation has since been refined in various ways, quite a bit of work put into proving various aspects, and so on.
Application of that relatively formal model of CSP (as opposed to just the general idea) is much less common. It's been used in a few systems where high reliability was considered extremely important, but few programmers appear interested in learning (yet another) formal design notation.
When I've designed systems like this, I've generally used an approach that's less rigorous, but (at least to me) rather easier to understand: a fairly simple diagram, with boxes representing the processes, and arrows representing the lines of communication. I doubt I could really offer much in the way of a proof about most of the designs (and I'll admit I haven't designed a really huge system this way), but it's worked reasonably well nonetheless.
Take a look at the website for a company called Verum. Their ASD technology is based on CSP and is used by companies like Philips Healthcare, Ericsson and NXP semiconductors to build software for all kinds of high-tech equipment and applications.
So to answer your question: Yes, CSP is used on large software projects in real-life.
Full disclosure: I do freelance work for Verum
Answering a very old question, yet it seems important that one
There is Go where CSPs are a fundamental part of the language. In the FAQ to Go, the authors write:
Concurrency and multi-threaded programming have a reputation for difficulty. We believe this is due partly to complex designs such as pthreads and partly to overemphasis on low-level details such as mutexes, condition variables, and memory barriers. Higher-level interfaces enable much simpler code, even if there are still mutexes and such under the covers.
One of the most successful models for providing high-level linguistic support for concurrency comes from Hoare's Communicating Sequential Processes, or CSP. Occam and Erlang are two well known languages that stem from CSP. Go's concurrency primitives derive from a different part of the family tree whose main contribution is the powerful notion of channels as first class objects. Experience with several earlier languages has shown that the CSP model fits well into a procedural language framework.
Projects implemented in Go are:
Docker
Google's download server
Many more
This style is ubiquitous on Unix where many tools are designed to process from standard in to standard out. I don't have any first hand knowledge of large systems that are build that way, but I've seen many small once-off systems that are
for instance this simple command line uses (at least) 3 processes.
cat list-1 list-2 list-3 | sort | uniq > final.list
This system is only moderately sized, but I wrote a protocol processor that strips away and interprets successive layers of protocol in a message that used a style very similar to this. It was an event driven system using something akin to cooperative threading, but I could've used multithreading fairly easily with a couple of added tweaks.
The program is proprietary (unfortunately) so I can't show off the source code.
In my opinion, this style is useful for some things, but usually best mixed with some other techniques. Often there is a core part of your program that represents a processing bottleneck, and applying various concurrency increasing techniques there is likely to yield the biggest gains.
Microsoft had a technology called ActiveMovie (if I remember correctly) that did sequential processing on audio and video streams. Data got passed from one filter to another to go from input to output format (and source/sink). Maybe that's a practical example??
The Wikipedia article looks to me like a lot of funny symbols used to represent somewhat pedestrian concepts. For very large or extensible programs, the formalism can be very important to check how the (sub)processes are allowed to interact.
For a 50,000 line class program, you're probably better off architecting it as you see fit.
In general, following ideas such as these is a good idea in terms of performance. Persistent threads that process data in stages will tend not to contend, and exploit data locality well. Also, it is easy to throttle the threads to avoid data piling up as a fast stage feeds a slow stage: just block the fast one if its output buffer grows too big.
A little bit off-topic but for my thesis I used a tool framework called TERRA/LUNA which aims for software development for Embedded Control Systems but is used heavily for all sorts of software development at my institute (so only academical use here).
TERRA is a graphical CSP and software architecture editor and LUNA is both the name for a C++ library for CSP based constructs and the plugin you'll find in TERRA to generate C++ code from your CSP models.
It becomes very handy in combination with FDR3 (a CSP refinement checker) to detect any sort of (dead/life/etc) lock or even profiling.
a theoretical question. After reading Armstrongs 'programming erlang' book I was wondering the following:
It will take some time to learn Erlang. Let alone master it. It really is fundamentally different in a lot of respects.
So my question: Is it possible to write 'like erlang' or with some 'erlang like framework', which given that you take care not to create functions with sideffects, you can create scaleable reliable apps as well as in Erlang? Maybe with the same msgs sending, loads of 'mini processes' paradigm.
The advantage would be to not throw all your accumulated C/C++ knowledge over the fence.
Any thoughts about this would be welcome
Yes, it is possible, but...
Probably the best answer for this question is given by Robert Virding’s First Rule:
“Any sufficiently complicated
concurrent program in another language
contains an ad hoc,
informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow
implementation of half of Erlang.”
Very good rule is use the right tool for the task. Erlang excels in concurrency and reliability. C/C++ was not designed with these properties in mind.
If you don't want to throw away your C/C++ knowledge and experience and your project allows this kind of division, good approach is to create a mixed solution. Write concurrent, communication and error handling code in Erlang, then add C/C++ parts, which will do CPU and IO bound stuff.
You clearly can - the Erlang/OTP system is largely written in C (and Erlang). The question is 'why would you want to?'
In 'ye olde days' people used to write their own operating system - but why would you want to?
If you elect to use an operating system your unwritten software has certain properties - it can persist to hard disk, it can speak to a network, it can draw on screens, it can run from the command line, it can be invoked in batch mode, etc, etc...
The Erlang/OTP system is 1.5M lines of code which has been demonstrated to give 99.9999999% uptime in large systems (the UK phone system) - that's 31ms downtime a year.
With Erlang/OTP your unwritten software has high reliability, it can hot-swap itself, your unwritten application can failover when a physical computer dies.
Why would you want to rewrite that functionality?
I would break this into 2 questions
Can you write concurrent, scalable C++ applications
Yes. It's certainly possible to create the low level constructs needed in order to achieve this.
Would you want to write concurrent, scalable, C++ applications
Perhaps. But if I was going for a highly concurrent application, I would choose a language that was either designed to fill that void or easily lent itself to doing so (Erlang, F# and possibly C#).
C++ was not designed to build highly concurrent applications. But it can certainly be tweaked into doing so. The cost might be higher than you expect though once you factor in memory management.
Yes, but you will be doing some extra work.
Regarding side effects, consider how the .net/plinq team is approaching. Plinq won't be able to enforce you hand it stuff with no side effects, but it will assume you do so and play by its rules so we get to use a simpler api. Even if the language doesn't have built-in support for it, it will still simplify things as you can break the operations more easily.
What I can do in one Turing complete language I can do in any other Turing complete language.
So I interpret your question to read, is it as easy to write a reliable and scalable application in C++ as it is in Erlang?
The answer to that is highly subjective. For me it is easier to write it in C++ for the following reasons:
I have already done it in C++ (at least three times).
I don't know Erlang.
I have read a great deal about Stackless Python, which feels to me like a highly concurrent message based cooperative multitasking system in python, but of course python is written on top of C.
Having said that. If you already know both languages, and you have the problem well defined, you can then make the best choice based on all the information you have at hand.
the main 'problem' with C (or C++) for writing reliable and easy to extend programs is that in C you can do anything. so, the first step would be to write a simple framework that restricts just a bit. most good programmers do that anyway.
in this case, the restrictions would be mostly to make it easy to define a 'process' within whatever level of isolation you want. fork() has a reputation of being slow, and threads also need significant time to spawn, so you might want to use a cooperative multitasking, which can be far more efficient, and you could even make it preemptive (i think that's what Erlang does). to get multi-core efficiency, set a pool of threads and make all of them complete to run the tasks.
another important part would be to create an appropriate library of immutable data structures, so that using them (instead of the standard lib) your functions would be (mostly) side-effect-free.
then it's just a matter of setting a good API for message passing and futures... not easy, but at least it doesn't seem like changing the language itself.
When I hire developers for general mid-to-senior web app development positions, I generally expect them to understand core concurrent programming concepts such as liveness vs. safety, race conditions, thread synchronization and deadlocks. I'm not sure whether to consider topics like fork/join, wait/notify, lock ordering, memory model basics (just the basics) and so forth to be part of what every reasonably seasoned developer ought to know, or whether these are topics that are more for semi-specialists (i.e. developers who have made a conscious decision to know more than the average developer about concurrent programming).
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.
I tend to think that at this point in time concurrent programming at any serious level of depth is still a specialist skill. Many will claim to know about it through study, but many will also make an almighty mess of it when they come to apply it.
In addition to the considerations listed, I would also look at resource implications and the various overheads of using processes, threads and fibers. In some contexts, e.g. mobile devices, excessive multithreading can have serious performance implications. This can lead to portability issues with multithreaded code.
I guess if I was interviewing a candidate in this situation, I would work with a real world example rather than hitting on more general topics which can be quoted back verbatim from a text book. I say this having done a fair bit of multithreaded work myself and remembering how badly I screwed up the first couple of times. Many can talk the talk... ;)
I know all these topics, but I studied them. I also know many competent senior programmers that don't know these. So unless you expect these programmers to be using those concepts actively, there is no reason to turn down a perfectly good candidate because they don't understand every aspect of concurrency
The real question is:
In what ways does it matter to the code they will be developing?
You should know which concepts the development position you're hiring for needs to know to be able to work on the projects that they will be responsible for.
As with anything in the programming world.. The devil is in the details, and you can't know everything. Would you expect them to know Perl if you were hiring for a Java position?
Also, concurrency, at this stage, while well described in generalized theory, is heavily implementation and platform dependent. Concurrency in Perl on an AIX box is not the same game as concurrency in a C++ Winforms app. They can have all the theory in the world under their belts, but if it's required for the job, then they should have intimate knowledge of the platform they are expected to use it on as well.
I interview folks for concurrency-related positions frequently and I look for three general aspects:
General understanding of core concepts like the ones you list (language-independent)
Specific understanding of Java concurrency libraries and primitives (specific to the work they'd be doing)
Ability to design the solution to a concurrent problem in a reasonable way.
I consider #1 a requirement (for my positions). I consider #2 a nice to have. If they understand it and can describe it in terms of pthreads or whatever other library, it's no biggie to learn the latest Java concurrency libraries (the concepts are the hard part). And #3 tends to separate the hires from the maybe-hires.
Per your question, I wouldn't consider fork/join to be known by almost anyone, esp someone applying for a web app developer position. I would look for developers to have experience with some (but not all) of those topics. Most developers I've interviewed have not used the Java 5+ concurrency libs at all but they can typically describe things like data race or deadlock.