How do I measure FLOPS or IOPS? If I do measure time for ordinary floating point addition / multiplication , is it equivalent to FLOPS?
FLOPS is floating point operations per second. To measure FLOPS you first need code that performs such operations. If you have such code, what you can measure is its execution time. You also need to sum up or estimate (not measure!) all floating point operations and divide that over the measured wall time. You should count all ordinary operations like additions,subtractions,multiplications,divisions (yes, even though they are slower and better avoided, they are still FLOPs..). Be careful how you count! What you see in your source code is most likely not what the compiler produces after all the optimisations. To be sure you will likely have to look at the assembly..
FLOPS is not the same as Operations per second. So even though some architectures have a single MAD (multiply-and-add) instruction, those still count as two FLOPs. Similarly the SSE instructions. You count them as one instruction, though they perform more than one FLOP.
FLOPS are not entirely meaningless, but you need to be careful when comparing your FLOPS to sb. elses FLOPS, especially the hardware vendors. E.g. NVIDIA gives the peak FLOPS performance for their cards assuming MAD operations. So unless your code has those, you will not ever get this performance. Either rethink the algorithm, or modify the peak hardware FLOPS by a correct factor, which you need to figure out for your own algorithm! E.g., if your code only performs multiplication, you would divide it by 2. Counting right might get your code from suboptimal to quite efficient without changing a single line of code..
You can use the CPU performance counters to get the CPU to itself count the number of floating point operations it uses for your particular program. Then it is the simple matter of dividing this by the run time. On Linux the perf tools allow this to be done very easily, I have a writeup on the details of this on my blog here:
http://www.bnikolic.co.uk/blog/hpc-howto-measure-flops.html
FLOP's are not well defined. mul FLOPS are different than add FLOPS. You have to either come up with your own definition or take the definition from a well-known benchmark.
Usually you use some well-known benchmark. Things like MIPS and megaFLOPS don't mean much to start with, and if you don't restrict them to specific benchmarks, even that tiny bit of meaning is lost.
Typically, for example, integer speed will be quoted in "drystone MIPS" and floating point in "Linpack megaFLOPS". In these, "drystone" and "Linpack" are the names of the benchmarks used to do the measurements.
IOPS are I/O operations. They're much the same, though in this case, there's not quite as much agreement about which benchmark(s) to use (though SPC-1 seems fairly popular).
This is a highly architecture specific question, for a naive/basic/start start I would recommend to find out how many Operations 1 multiplication take's on your specific hardware then do a large matrix multiplication , and see how long it takes. Then you can eaisly estimate the FLOP of your particular hardware
the industry standard of measuring flops is the well known Linpack or HPL high performance linpack, try looking at the source or running those your self
I would also refer to this answer as an excellent reference
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I keep having warnings from compute shader compilation in that I'm recommended to use uints instead of ints with dividing.
By default from the data type I assume uints are faster; however various tests online seem to point to the contrary; perhaps this contradiction is on the CPU side only and GPU parallelisation has some unknown advantage?
(Or is it just bad advice?)
I know that this is an extremely late answer, but this is a question that has come up for me as well, and I wanted to provide some information for anyone who sees this in the future.
I recently found this resource - https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.08778.pdf
The table at the bottom lists the latency of basic operations on several graphics cards. There is a small but consistent savings to be found by using uints on all measured hardware. However, what the warning doesn't state is that the greater optimization is to be found by replacing division with multiplication if at all possible.
https://www.slideshare.net/DevCentralAMD/lowlevel-shader-optimization-for-nextgen-and-dx11-by-emil-persson states that type conversion is a full-rate operation like int/float subtraction, addition, and multiplication, whereas division is very slow.
I've seen it suggested that to improve performance, one should convert to float, divide, then convert back to int, but as shown in the first source, this will at best give you small gains and at worst actually decrease performance.
You are correct that it varies from performance of operations on the CPU, although I'm not entirely certain why.
Looking at https://www.agner.org/optimize/instruction_tables.pdf it appears that which operation is faster (MUL vs IMUL) varies from CPU to CPU - in a few at the top of the list IMUL is actually faster, despite a higher instruction count. Other CPUs don't provide a distinction between MUL and IMUL at all.
TL;DR uint division is faster on the GPU, but on the CPU YMMV
I have a very complicated and sophisticated data fitting program which uses the Levenverg-Marquardt algorithm to do fitting in double precision (basically the fitting class is templatized, but I use instantiate it to doubles). The fitting process involves:
Calculating an error function (chi-square)
Solving a system of linear equations (I use lapack for that)
calculating the derivatives of a function with respect to the parameters, which I want to fit to the data (usually 20+ parameters)
calculating the function value continuously: the function is a complicated combination of a sinusoidal and exponential functions with a few harmonics.
A colleague of mine has suggested that I use integers for at least 10 times faster at least. My questions are:
Is that true that I will get that kind of improvement?
Is it safe to convert everything to integers? And what are the drawbacks to this?
What advice would you have for this whole issue? What would you do?
The program is developed to calculate some parameters from the signal online, which means that the program must be as fast as possible, but I'm wondering whether it's worth it to start the project of converting everything to integers.
The amount of improvement depends on your platform. For example, if your platform has a fast floating point coprocessor, performing arithmetic in floating point may be faster than integral arithmetic.
You may be able to get more performance gain by optimizing your algorithms rather than switching to integer arithmetic.
Another method for boosting performance is to reduce data cache hits and also reducing branches and loops.
I would measure performance of the program to find out where the bottlenecks are and then review the sections that where most of the performance takes place. For example, in my embedded system, micro-optimizations like what you are suggesting, saved 3 microseconds. This gain is not worth the effort to retest the entire system. If it works, don't fix it. Concentrate on correctness and robustness first.
The bottom line here is that you have to test it and decide for yourself. Profile a release build using real data.
1- Is that true that I will get that kind of improvement?
Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on a number of factors, such as
How long it takes to convert from double to int
How big a word is on your machine
What platform/toolset you're using and what optimizations you have enabled
(Maybe) how big a cache line is on your platform
How fast your memory is
How fast your platform computes floating-point versus integer.
And who knows what else. In short, too many complex variables for anyone to be able to say for sure if you will or will not improve performance.
But I would be highly skeptical about your friend's claim, "at least 10 times faster at least."
2- Is it safe to convert everything to integers? And what are the
drawbacks to this?
It depends on what you're converting and how. Obviously converting a value like 123.456 to an integer is decidedly unsafe.
Drawbacks include loss of precision, loss of accuracy, and the expense in terms of space and time to actually do the conversions. Another significant drawback is the fact that you have to write a substantial amount of code, and every line of code you write is a probable source of new bugs.
3- What advice would you have for this whole issue? What would you do?
I would step back & take a deep breath. Profile your code under real-world conditions. Identify the sources of the bottlenecks. Find out what the real problems are, and if there even are any.
Identify inefficiencies in your algorithms, and fix them.
Throw hardware at the problem.
Then you can endeavor to start micro-optimizing. This would be my last resort, especially if the optimization technique you are considering would require writing a lot of code.
First, this reeks of attempting to optimize unnecessarily.
Second, doubles are a minimum of 64-bits. ints on most systems are 32-bits. So you have a couple of choices: truncate the double (which reduces your precision to a single), or store it in the space of 2 integers, or store it as an unsigned long long (which is at least 64-bits as well). For the first 2 options, you are facing a performance hit as you must convert the numbers back and forth between the doubles you are operating on and the integers you are storing it as. For the third option, you are not gaining any performance increase (in terms of memory usage) as they are basically the same size - so you'd just be converting them to integers for no reason.
So, to get to your questions:
1) Doubtful, but you can try it to see for yourself.
2) The problem isn't storage as the bits are just bits when they get into memory. The problem is the arithmetic. Since you stated you need double precision, attempting to do those operations on an integer type will not give you the results you are looking for.
3) Don't optimize until it has been proven something needs to have a performance improvement. And always remember Amdahl's Law: Make the common case fast and the rare case correct.
What I would do is:
First tune it in single-thread mode (by the random-pausing method) until you can't find any way to reduce cycles. The kinds of things I've found are:
a large fraction of time spent in library functions like sin, cos, exp, and log where the arguments were often unchanged, so the answers would be the same. The solution for that is called "memoizing", where you figure out a place to store old values of arguments and results, and check there first before calling the function.
In calling library functions like DGEMM (lapack matrix-multiply) that one would assume are optimized to the teeth, they are actually spending a large fraction of time calling a function to determine if the matrices are upper or lower triangle, square, symmetric, or whatever, rather than actually doing the multiplication. If so, the answer is obvious - write a special routine just for your situation.
Don't say "but I don't have those problems". Of course - you probably have different problems - but the process of finding them is the same.
Once you've made it as fast as possible in single-thread, then figure out how to parallelize it. Multi-threading can have high overhead, so it's best not to tightly-couple the threads.
Regarding your question about converting from doubles to integers, the other answers are right on the money. It only makes sense in very particular situations.
I'm working on a physics engine and feel it would help having a better understanding of the speed and performance effects of performing many simple or complex math operations.
A large part of a physics engine is weeding out the unnecessary computations, but at what point are the computations small enough that a comparative checks aren't necessary?
eg: Testing if two line segments intersect. Should there be check on if they're near each other before just going straight into the simple math, or would the extra operation slow down the process in the long run?
How much time do different mathematical calculations take
eg: (3+8) vs (5x4) vs (log(8)) etc.
How much time do inequality checks take?
eg: >, <, =
You'll have to do profiling.
Basic operations, like additions or multiplications should only take one asm instructions.
EDIT: As per the comments, although taking one asm instruction, multiplications can expand to microinstructions.
Logarithms take longer.
Also one asm instruction.
Unless you profile your code, there's no way to tell where your bottlenecks are.
Unless you call math operations millions of times (and probably even if you do), a good choice of algorithms or some other high-level optimization will results in a bigger speed gain than optimizing the small stuff.
You should write code that is easy to read and easy to modify, and only if you're not satisfied with the performance then, start optimizing - first high-level, and only afterwards low-level.
You might also want to try dynamic programming or caching.
As regards 2 and 3, I could refer you to the Intel® 64 and IA-32 Architectures Optimization Reference Manual. Appendix C presents the latencies and the throughput of various instructions.
However, unless you hand-code assembly code, your compiler will apply its own optimizations, so using this information directly would be rather difficult.
More importantly, you could use SIMD to vectorize your code and run computations in parallel. Also, memory performance can be a bottleneck if your memory layout is not ideal. The document I linked to has chapters on both issues.
However, as #Ph0en1x said, the first step would be choosing (or writing) an efficient algorithm, making it work for your problem. Only then should you start wondering about low-level optimizations.
As for 1, in a general case I'd say that if your algorithm works in such a way that it has some adjustable thresholds for when to execute certain tests, you could do some profiling and print out a performance graph of some kind, and determine the optimal values for those thresholds.
Well, this depends on your hardware. Very nice tables with instruction latency are http://www.agner.org/optimize/instruction_tables.pdf
1. it depends on the code a lot. Also don't forget it doesn't depend only on computations, but how well the comparison results can be predicted.
2. Generally addition/subtraction is very fast, multiplication of floats is a bit slower. Float division is rather slow (if you need to divide by a constant c, it's often better to precompute 1/c and multiply by it). The library functions are usually (I'd dare to say always) slower than simple operators, unless the compiler decides to use SSE. For example sqrt() and 1/sqrt() can be computed using one SSE instruction.
3. From about one cycle to several dozens of cycles. The current processors does the prediction on conditions. If the prediction is right right, it will be fast. However, if the prediction is wrong, the processor has to throw away all the preloaded instructions (IIRC Sandy Bridge preloads up to 30 instructions) and start processing new instructions.
That means if you have a code, where a condition is met most of the time, it will be fast. Similarly if you have code where the condition is not met most the time, it will be fast. Simple alternating conditions (TFTFTF…) are usually fast too.
This depends on the scenario you are trying to simulate. How many objects do you have and how close are they? Are they clustered or distributed evenly? Do your objects move around alot, or are they static? You will have to run tests. Possible data-structures for fast checking of proximity are kd-trees or locality-sensitive hashes (there may be others). I am not sure if these are appropriate for your application, you'd have to check if the maintenance of the data-structure and the lookup-cost are OK for you.
You will have to run tests. Consider checking if you can use vectorization, or if you can even run some of the computations in a GPU using CUDA or something like that.
Same as above - you have to test.
You can generally consider inequality checks, increment, decrement, bit shifts, addition and subtraction to be really cheap. Multiplication and division are generally a little more expensive. Complex math operations like logarithms are much more expensive.
Benchmark on your platform to be sure. Be careful about benchmarking using artificial tests with tight loops -- that tends to give you misleading results. Try to benchmark in code that's as realistic as possible. Ideally, profile the actual code under realistic conditions.
As for the optimizations for things like line intersection, it depends on the data set. If you do a lot of checks and most of your lines are short, it may be worth a quick check to rule out cases where the X or Y ranges don't overlap.
as much as I know all "inequality checks" take the same time.
regarding the rest calculations, I would advice you to run some tests like
take time stamp A
make 1,000,000 "+" calculation (or any other).
take time stamp B
calculate the diff between A and B.
then you can compare the calculations.
take in mind:
using different mathematical lib may change it (some math lib are more performance oriented and some more precision oriented)
the compiler optimization may change it.
each processor is doing it differently.
It is well-known that the processor instruction for multiplication takes several times more time than addition, division is even worse (UPD: which is not true any more, see below). What about more complex operations like exponent? How difficult are they?
Motivation. I am interested because it would help in algorithm design to estimate performance-critical parts of algorithms on early stage. Suppose I want to apply a set of filters to an image. One of them operates on 3×3 neighborhood of each pixel, sums them and takes atan. Another one sums more neighbouring pixels, but does not use complicated functions. Which one would execute longer?
So, ideally I want to have approximate relative times of elementary operations execution, like multiplication typically takes 5 times more time than addition, exponent is about 100 multiplications. Of course, it is a deal of orders of magnitude, not the exact values. I understand that it depends on the hardware and on the arguments, so let's say we measure average time (in some sense) for floating-point operations on modern x86/x64. For operations that are not implemented in hardware, I am interested in typical running time for C++ standard libraries.
Have you seen any sources when such thing was analyzed? Does this question makes sense at all? Or no rules of thumb like this could be applied in practice?
First off, let's be clear. This:
It is well-known that processor instruction for multiplication takes
several times more time than addition
is no longer true in general. It hasn't been true for many, many years, and needs to stop being repeated. On most common architectures, integer multiplies are a couple cycles and integer adds are single-cycle; floating-point adds and multiplies tend to have nearly equal timing characteristics (typically around 4-6 cycles latency, with single-cycle throughput).
Now, to your actual question: it varies with both the architecture and the implementation. On a recent architecture, with a well written math library, simple elementary functions like exp and log usually require a few tens of cycles (20-50 cycles is a reasonable back-of-the-envelope figure). With a lower-quality library, you will sometimes see these operations require a few hundred cycles.
For more complicated functions, like pow, typical timings range from high tens into the hundreds of cycles.
You shouldn't be concerned about this. If I tell you that a typical C library implementation of transcendental functions tend to take around 10 times a single floating point addition/multiplication (or 50 floating point additions/multiplications), and around 5 times a floating point division, this wouldn't be useful to you.
Indeed, the way your processor schedules memory accesses will interfere badly with any premature optimization you'd do.
If after profiling you find that a particular implementation using transcendental functions is too slow, you can contemplate setting up a polynomial interpolation scheme. This will include a table and therefore will incur extra cache issues, so make sure to measure and not guess.
This will likely involve Chebyshev approximation. Document yourself about it, this is a particularly useful technique in this kind of domains.
I have been told that compilers are quite bad in optimizing floating point code. You may want to write custom assembly code.
Also, Intel Performance Primitives (if you are on Intel CPU) is something good to own if you are ready to trade off some accuracy for speed.
You could always start a second thread and time the operations. Most elementary operations don't have that much difference in execution time. The big difference is how many times the are executed. The O(n) is generally what you should be thinking about.
Is there any sort of performance difference between the arithmetic operators in c++, or do they all run equally fast? E.g. is "++" faster than "+=1"? What about "+=10000"? Does it make a significant difference if the numbers are floats instead of integers? Does "*" take appreciably longer than "+"?
I tried performing 1 billion each of "++", "+=1", and "+=10000". The strange thing is that the number of clock cycles (according to time.h) is actually counterintuitive. One might expect that if any of them are the fastest, it is "++", followed by "+=1", then "+=10000", but the data shows a slight trend in the opposite direction. The difference is more pronounced on 10 billion operations. This is all for integers.
I am dabbling in scientific computing, so I wanted to test the performance of operators. If any of the operators operated in time that was linear in terms of the inputs, for example.
About your edit, the language says nothing about the architecture it's running on. Your question is platform dependent.
That said, typically all fundamental data-type operations have a one-to-one correspondence to assembly.
x86 for example has an instruction which increments a value by 1, which i++ or i += 1 would translate into. Addition and multiplication also have single instructions.
Hardware-wise, it's fairly obvious that adding or multiplying numbers is at least linear in the number of bits in the numbers. Because the hardware has a constant number of bits, it's O(1).
Floats have their own processing unit, usually, which also has single instructions for operations.
Does it matter?
Why not write the code that does what you need it to do. If you want to add one, use ++. If you want to add a large number, add a large number. If you need floats, use floats. If you need to multiply two numbers, then multiply them.
The compiler will figure out the best way to do what you want, so instead of trying to be tricky, do what you need and let it do the hard work.
After you've written your working code, and you decide it's too slow, profile it and find out why. You'll find it's not silly things like multiplying versus adding, but rather going about the entire (sub-)problem in the wrong way.
Practically, all of the operators you listed will be done in a single CPU instruction anyway, on desktop platforms.
No, no, yes*, yes*, respectively.
* but do you really care?
EDIT: to give some kind of idea with a modern processor, you may be able to do 200 integer additions in the time it takes to make one memory access, and only 50 integer multiplications. If you think about it, you're still going to be bound by the memory accesses most of the time.
What you are asking is: What basic operations get transformed into which assembly instructions and what is the performance of those instructions on my specific architecture. And this is also your answer: The code they get translated to is dependant on your compiler and it's knowledge of your architecture, their performance depends on your architecture.
Mind you: in C++ operators can be overloaded for user defined types. They can behave differently from built-in types and the implementation of the overload can be non-trivial (no just one instruction).
Edit: A hint for testing. Most compilers support outputting the generated assembly code. The option for gcc is -S. If you use some other compiler have a look at their documentation.
The best answer is to time it with your compiler.
Look up the optimization manuals for your CPU. That's the only place you're going to find answers.
Get your compiler to output the generated assembly. Download the manuals for your CPU. Look up the instructions used by the compiler in the manual, and you know how they perform.
Of course, this presumes that you already know the basics of how a pipelined, superscalar out-of-order CPU operates, what branch prediction, instruction and data cache and everything else means. Do your homework.
Performance is a ridiculously complicated subject. Depending on context, floating-point code may be as fast as (or faster than) integer code, or it may be four times slower. Usually branches carry almost no penalty, but in special cases, they can be crippling. Sometimes, recomputing data is more efficient than caching it, and sometimes not.
Understand your programming language. Understand your compiler. Understand your CPU. And then examine exactly what the compiler is doing in your case, by profiling/timing, and on when necessary by examining the individual instructions. (and when timing your code, be aware of all the caveats and gotchas that can invalidate your benchmarks: Make sure optimizations are enabled, but also that the code you're trying to measure isn't optimized away. Take the cache into account (if the data is already in the CPU cache, it'll run much faster. If it has to read from physical memory to begin with, it'll take extra time. Both can invalidate your measurements if you're not careful. Keep in mind what you want to measure exactly)
For your specific examples, why should ++i be faster than i += 1? They do the exact same thing? Sometimes, it may make a difference whether you're adding a constant or a variable, but in this case, you're adding the constant one in both cases.
And in general, instructions take a fixed constant time regardless of their operands. adding one to something takes just as long as adding -2000 or 1772051912. The same goes for multiplication or division.
But if you care about performance, you need to understand how the entire technology stack works, not just rely on a few simple rules of thumb like "integer is faster than floating point, and ++ is faster than +=" (Apart from anything else, such simple rules of thumb are almost never true, at least not in every case)
Here is a twist on your evaluations: try Loop Unrolling. Loop unrolling is where you repeat the same statements in a loop to reduce the number of iterations in the loop.
Most modern processors hate branch instructions. The processors have a queue of pre-fetched instructions, which speeds up processing. They really hate branch instructions, because the processor has to clear out the queue and reload it after a branch. This takes more time than just processing sequential instructions.
When coding for processing time, try to minimize the number of branches, which can occur in loop constructs and decision constructs.
Depends on architecture, the built in operators for integer arithmetic translate directly to assembly (as I understand it) ++, +=1, and += 10000 are probably equally fast, multiplication would depend on the platform, overloaded operators would depend on you
Donald Knuth : "We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: premature optimization is the root of all evil"
unless you are writing extremely time critical software, you should probably worry about other things
Short answer: you should turn optimizations on before measuring.
The long answer: If you turned optimizations on, you're performing the operations on integers, and still you get different times for ++i; and i += 1;, then it's probably time to get a better compiler -- the two statements have exactly the same semantics and a competent compiler should translate them into the same instruction sequence.
"Does it make a significant difference if the numbers are floats instead of integers?"
-It depends on what kind of processor you are running on. Integer operations are faster on current x86 compatible CPUs.
About i++ and i+=1: there shouldn't be a difference with any good compiler, while you may expect i+=10000 to be slightly slower on x86 CPUs.
"Does "*" take appreciably longer than "+"?"
-Typically yes.
Note that you may run into all sorts of bottlenecks, in which case the speed difference between the operations doesn't show up. Eg. memory bandwidth, CPU pipeline stall due to data dependencies, etc...
The performance problems caused by C++ operators do not come from the operators and not from the operators implementation. It comes from the syntax, from hidden code being run without you knowing.
The best example, is implementing quick sort, on an object which has the operator[] implemented, but internally it's using a linked list. Now instead of O(nlogn) [1] you will get O(n^2logn).
The problem with performance is that you cannot know exactly what your code will eventually be.
[1] I know that quick sort is actually O(n^2), but it rarely gets to it, the average distribution will give you O(nlogn).