I don't fully understand the way texture data is accessed on the GPU. If possible - could anyone explain these?
When the number of texture units is limited, does this limit the number of textures I can generate using glGenTextures() and upload to the GPU using glTexImage2D()? Or does it only limit the number of texture units which can be bound using glBindTexture()?
What I'd really like to do is to be able to upload all my textures to the GPU - even if there are more than the number of available texture units. When a texture is needed I would just bind it to the texture unit using glBindTexture(). Is this possible?
Ad. 1. Texturing units is equal to the number of textures you can bind simultaneously.
Ad. 2. That is precisely the way to go - you upload as many textures as you like and bind only the ones needed for your current draw call. It's one of the jobs of the GPU driver to automatically page the required data (i.e. the texels of the textures currently bound) to and from the GPU's and the system's RAM.
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My computer doesn't support OpenCL on the GPU or OpenGL compute shaders so I was wondering if it would be a straight forward process to get data from a vertex or fragment shader?
My goal is to pass 2 textures to the shader and have the shader computer the locations where one texture exists in the other. Where there is a pixel match. I need to retrieve the locations of possible matches from the shader.
Is this plausible? If so, how would I go about it? I have the basic OpenGL knowledge, I have set up a program that draws polygons with colors. I really just need a way to get position values back from the shader.
You can render to memory instead of to screen, and then fetch data from it.
Create and bind a Framebuffer Object
Create a Renderbuffer Object and attach it to the Framebuffer Object
Render your scene. The result will end up in the bound Framebuffer Object instead of on the screen.
Use glReadPixels to pull data from the Framebuffer Object.
Be aware that glReadPixels, like most methods of fetching data from GPU memory back to main memory, is slow and likely unsuitable for real-time applications. But it's the best you can do if you don't have features intended for that, like Compute Shaders, or are willing to do it asynchronously with Pixel Buffer Objects.
You can read more about Framebuffers here.
I have a working prototype that tests bindless textures. I have a camera that pans over 6 gigs of texture, while i only have 2 gigs of VRAM. I have an inner frustum that is used to get the list of objects in the viewport for rendering, and an outer frustum that is used to Queue in (make resident) the textures that will soon be rendered, all other textures, if they are resident, are made non resident using the function glMakeTextureHandleNonResident.
The program runs, but the VRAM of the gpu behaves as if it has a GC step where it clears VRAM at random intervals of time. When it does this, my rendering is completely frozen, but then skips to the proper frame, eventually getting back to up 60 FPS. Im curious that glMakeTextureHandleNonResident doesnt actually pull the texture out of VRAM "when" it is called. Does anyone know EXACTLY what the GPU is doing with that call?
GPU: Nvidia 750GT M
Bindless textures essentially expose a translation table on the hardware so that you can reference textures using an arbitrary integer (handle) in a shader rather than GL's traditional bind-to-image-unit mechanics; they don't allow you to directly control GPU memory residency.
Sparse textures actually sound more like what you want. Note that both of these things can be used together.
Making a handle non-resident does not necessarily evict the texture memory from VRAM, it just removes the handle from said translation table. Eviction of texture memory can be deferred until some future time, exactly as you have discovered.
You can read more about this in the extension specification for GL_ARB_bindless_texture.
void glMakeImageHandleResidentARB (GLuint64 handle, GLenum access):
"When an image handle is resident, the texture it references is not necessarily considered resident for the purposes of the AreTexturesResident command."
Issues:
(18) Texture and image handles may be made resident or non-resident. How
does handle residency interact with texture residency queries from
OpenGL 1.1 (glAreTexturesResident or GL_TEXTURE_RESIDENT)?
RESOLVED:
The residency state for texture and image handles in this
extension is completely independent from OpenGL 1.1's GL_TEXTURE_RESIDENT
query. Residency for texture handles is a function of whether the
glMakeTextureHandleResidentARB has been called for the handle. OpenGL 1.1
residency is typically a function of whether the texture data are
resident in GPU-accessible memory.
When a texture handle is not made resident, the texture that it refers
to may or may not be stored in GPU-accessible memory. The
GL_TEXTURE_RESIDENT query may return GL_TRUE in this case. However, it does
not guarantee that the texture handle may be used safely.
When a texture handle is made resident, the texture that it refers to is
also considered resident for the purposes of the old GL_TEXTURE_RESIDENT
query. When an image handle is resident, the texture that it refers to
may or may not be considered resident for the query -- the resident
image handle may refer only to a single layer of a single mipmap level
of the full texture.
I understand VBOs are essentially memory that is stored on the graphics card rather circumventing the need to send the data every time.
My questions:
I heard that VBOs only support one texture. Is this one texture total or just one texture per rendering call? I have to render multiple BSP regions and they often have 3-4 textures per region. Could I simply create the VBO and just call drawelements 4 times with different textures bound. What is the performance hit for this?
Is there a maximum number of VBOs? I plan on having one attached to each region of BSP. In some levels, I can have 200-3000 regions. Would it be possible to have 3000 small VBOs attached to these various regions?
the number of textures you can have do not depend on the number of VBOs.
The number of textures that you can use in one rendering pass depend on the number of texture units you have. There are at least two of them but usually you have more.
As far as I know there is no restriction on the number of VBOs it just depends on the size of your graphic cards RAM.
But its more efficient to use less VBO's.
I'm rolling my very first game engine :D. I'm working on the texture resource manager now, and I want to do it right.
Is it bad in any way to just fill up all of the ActiveTexture units that the driver supports? The alternative would be to conserve these slots and only set textures when they are actually needed, at the expense of more glBindTexture calls.
The way you asked your question I think you suffer from a misconception between texture objects i.e. the texture storage, and texture units i.e. the machinery behind multitexturing.
OpenGL has texture object and texture units. Texture objects hold the data, texture units map the data of the texture object that's bound to them into the rendering process.
Usually one uploads all the textures needed for a scene into texture objects. And for each render batch that makes use of common material settings binds the textures to the right texture units in the rendering process.
I think it's also to be noted if you're going to be using tons of textures, i.e uploading to the GPU you need to consider an approach to minimize the VRAM usage. In any case what I think might be a benifit on your behalf is stb_dxt which is a DXT1/DXT5 compressor wrote in ansi C. You can compress your textures and upload them using CompressedTexture2D, this way all textures you upload to the GPU will take 1/8th their normal space.
At some point compressing all the textures at runtime will slow down the loading of your game, which is why I would suggest using DDS textures, you can use nvidia-texture tools for converting / managing compression of your textures externally.
Can anyone pls tell me how to use hardware memory to create textures in OpenGL ? Currently I'm running my game in window mode, do I need to switch to fullscreen to get the use of hardware ?
If I can create textures in hardware, is there a limit for no of textures (other than the hardware memory) ? and then how can I cache my textures into hardware ? Thanks.
This should be covered by almost all texture tutorials for OpenGL. For example here, here and here.
For every texture you first need a texture name. A texture name is like a unique index for a single texture. Every name points to a texture object that can have its own parameters, data, etc. glGenTextures is used to get new names. I don't know if there is any limit besides the uint range (2^32). If there is then you will probably get 0 for all new texture names (and a gl error).
The next step is to bind your texture (see glBindTexture). After that all operations that use or affect textures will use the texture specified by the texture name you used as parameter for glBindTexture. You can now set parameters for the texture (glTexParameter) and upload the texture data with glTexImage2D (for 2D textures). After calling glTexImage you can also free the system memory with your texture data.
For static textures all this has to be done only once. If you want to use the texture you just need to bind it again and enable texturing (glEnable(GL_TEXTURE_2D)).
The size (width/height) for a single texture is limited by GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE. This is normally 4096, 8192 or 16384. It is also limited by the available graphics memory because it has to fit into it together with some other resources like the framebuffer or vertex buffers. All textures together can be bigger then the available memory but then they will be swapped.
In most cases the graphics driver should decide which textures are stored in system memory and which in graphics memory. You can however give certain textures a higher priority with either glPrioritizeTextures or with glTexParameter.
Edit:
I wouldn't worry too much about where textures are stored because the driver normally does a very good job with that. Textures that are used often are also more likely to be stored in graphics memory. If you set a priority that's just a "hint" for the driver on how important it is for the texture to stay on the graphics card. It's also possible the the priority is completely ignored. You can also check where textures currently are with glAreTexturesResident.
Usually when you talk about generating a texture on the GPU, you're not actually creating texture images and applying them like normal textures. The simpler and more common approach is to use Fragment shaders to procedurally calculate the colors of for each pixel in real time from scratch for every single frame.
The canonical example for this is to generate a Mandelbrot pattern on the surface of an object, say a teapot. The teapot is rendered with its polygons and texture coordinates by the application. At some stage of the rendering pipeline every pixel of the teapot passes through the fragment shader which is a small program sent to the GPU by the application. The fragment shader reads the 2D texture coordinates and calculates the Mandelbrot set color of the 2D coordinates and applies it to the pixel.
Fullscreen mode has nothing to do with it. You can use shaders and generate textures even if you're in window mode. As I mentioned, the textures you create never actually occupy space in the texture memory, they are created on the fly. One could probably think of a way to capture and cache the generated texture but this can be somewhat complex and require multiple rendering passes.
You can learn more about it if you look up "GLSL" in google - the OpenGL shading language.
This somewhat dated tutorial shows how to create a simple fragment shader which draws the Mandelbrot set (page 4).
If you can get your hands on the book "OpenGL Shading Language, 2nd Edition", you'll find it contains a number of simple examples on generating sky, fire and wood textures with the help of an external 3D Perlin noise texture from the application.
To create a texture on GPU look into "render to texture" tutorials. There are two common methods: Binding a PBuffer context as texture, or using Frame Buffer Objects. PBuffer render to textures are the older method, and have the wider support. Frame Buffer Objects are easier to use.
Also you don't have to switch to "fullscreen" mode for OpenGL to be HW accelerated. In fact OpenGL doesn't know about windows at all. A fullscreen OpenGL window is just that: A toplvel window on top of all other windows with no decorations and the input focus grabed. Some drivers bypass window masking and clipping code, and employ a simpler, faster buffer swap method if the window with the active OpenGL context covers the whole screen, thus gaining a little performance, but with current hard- and software the effect is very small compared to other influences.