I'm writting an UDP server for a game.
Do you know if is possible to have multisocket in UDP on one port ? or I must use dynamic port (one socket = one port) ?
thanks
It make no large sense to create multiple socket on one UDP port. UDP is not point 2 point protocol like TCP so using one "server" socket bind to specific port you can handle hundreds of clients.
See Using SO_REUSEADDR...:
Using SO_REUSEADDR
The SO_REUSEADDR socket option allows a socket to forcibly bind to a
port in use by another socket. The second socket calls setsockopt with
the optname parameter set to SO_REUSEADDR and the optval parameter set
to a boolean value of TRUE before calling bind on the same port as the
original socket. Once the second socket has successfully bound, the
behavior for all sockets bound to that port is indeterminate. For
example, if all of the sockets on the same port provide TCP service,
any incoming TCP connection requests over the port cannot be
guaranteed to be handled by the correct socket — the behavior is
non-deterministic. A malicious program can use SO_REUSEADDR to
forcibly bind sockets already in use for standard network protocol
services in order to deny access to those service. No special
privileges are required to use this option.
Bonus reading: What exactly does SO_REUSEADDR do? .
Sure you can have multiple UDP sockets on one port if SO_REUSEADDR is specified via setsockopt.
However, I doubt that what you really need is using one UDP socket to communicate with multiple clients, which is also feasible. UDP is not connection-oriented, UDP APIs like sendto and recvfrom could distinguish different peers on one socket.
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I want to write a tcp server and client application, which has several different connections to each other where the client uses the same port number.
So far I understand it, the server has a listener port and when the client calls it, then I get a new socket for this new connection on the server side, when I call
accept();
Right? So on Server side I can identify my connection with this new socket and send data through it.
Now my understanding problem with the client side. There I get my socket when I call
socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0)
so I have only one socket. In the
connect()
I can specify remote adress and so on. So when I understand it correctly I can use one socket to make several connects to different adresses/port pairs to create different connections. Right?
But how can I now see in the Client from which logical connection I receive my data or how can I send it when 2 logical connections use the same local port at the client? On serverside I have 2 sockets when I have 2 accept called but what about the client side? For send and receive I have only one socket handle?
Or do I have to call socket() for each logical connection on the client?
I can specify remote adress and so on. So when I understand it correctly I can use one socket to make several connects to different adresses/port pairs to create different connections. Right?
No. A socket is the combination of IP address plus port number.
Or do I have to call socket() for each logical connection on the client?
Yes.
It seems to me your confusion arises because you think for example that a certain port is used for SMTP connections and a certain port is used for HTTP connections.
Well, that port alone is NOT defining for you a socket to the server. The IP address of the server is changing.
As an example, consider the following scenario:
You want to connection to Stackoverflow:
Your PC – IP1+port 50500 ——– Stackoverflow IP2 + port 80 (standard http port)
That is the combination IP1+50500 = the socket on the client computer and IP2 + port 80 = destination socket on the Stackoverflow server.
Now you want to connect to gnu.org:
your PC – IP1+port 50501 ——–gnu.org IP3 +port 80 (standard http port)
The combination IP1+50501 = the socket on the client computer and IP3 + port 80 = destination socket on the gnu.org server.
Better check out Beej's Network Programming to learn more. It is a must-read for anyone working with sockets.
So when I understand it correctly I can use one socket to make several connects to different adresses/port pairs to create different connections. Right?
No. A TCP socket can only be used once. When its connection has finished, or even if connect() just fails to make a connection, you must close the socket and create a new one if you want to make a new connection.
But how can I now see in the Client from which logical connection I receive my data or how can I send it when 2 logical connections use the same local port at the client?
Every TCP connection will have its own unique socket allocated for it. It is your responsibility to keep track of them.
On serverside I have 2 sockets when I have 2 accept called but what about the client side?
The exact same thing happens on the client side, too. You need to create and connect a separate socket for every TCP connection you make. So, you will have a new pair of socket()/connect() calls for every connection.
For send and receive I have only one socket handle?
No, you will have a separate socket for each connection, just like on the server side.
Or do I have to call socket() for each logical connection on the client?
Yes, and connect(), too.
I will not talk about a specific programming language rather I will give a general answer that is applicable for all:
In networking what you care about is the socket (IP+Port) this should be unique whether it is server/client socket or UDP/TCP socket.
For server sockets you must assign a port. For client sockets usually you do not specifically assign a port but it will be assigned by the operating system automatically. However, you can still assign a port to a client socket manually (e.g. in case some port numbers are blocked by the firewall)
In the server process:
you can get the server socket info and the connected client socket info
In the client process:
you can get the client socket info and the server (you want to connect to) socket info (of course you should know the server socket info previously otherwise how will you connect to it).
You can send/receive from/to client sockets. After the server gets the connected client socket it can send/receive through it. Same for the client side it can send/receive through its socket.
The "socket" abstraction is an unfortunate relic of past network stack design. It mixes two different sorts of objects.
A listening socket on the server has a port, and potentially an IP address of the local interface. However, this can also be 0.0.0.0 when listening on all interfaces.
A connected socket is associated with a TCP connection, and therefore has 4 parameters: {local IP, local port, remote IP, remote port}.
Now on the client side, you typically don't care about local IP or local port, so these are locally assigned on connect. And yes, these local parameters can in fact be reused for multiple connections. Only the 4-tuple of {local IP, local port, remote IP, remote port} needs to be unique. The OS will map that unique tuple to your SOCKET.
But since you need a new 4-tuple for every connection, it also follows you need a new SOCKET on both sides, for every connection, on both client and server.
Dear Stackoverflowers,
I am researching networking a bit and I decided I'd like to create a small and simple networking library with Winsock. (I am using Completion Ports and Overlapped IO though)
As I researched a bit I came to the following steps for a TCP Listener(Correct me if I am wrong):
Create a Listening Socket
Bind it to a port/IP
Listen on it
When a new connection is created, give a seperate Socket for that connection.
Listener continue's to listen, the specific connection is handled as needed.
EDIT: With a 'connection' from here I mean communication between the server and distinct clients.
Though for an UDP Listener we need to make use of WSARecvFrom which returns the IP address at the lpFrom parameter. Now I was wondering the following:
Is it better to make one UDP Socket listen to incoming connections on a specific port with WSARecvFrom and create new sockets for every specific connection? Or could I just use the UDP Socket itself with WSASendTo. Would that cause any performance penalties if one UDP Socket is used for for example 1000 connections? Or would it be the same or even better then creating/duplicating seperate Sockets for each different incoming connection?
Note: If multiple sockets are needed how would you handle sockets listening on the same port or could a client accept UDP from different ports?
Hope you guys can help!
Ps. Extra tips are always welcome!
Unlike TCP, UDP is connection-less, and as such you don't need to create separate sockets for each party. One UDP socket can handle everything. Bind it to a local IP/Port and call WSARecvFrom() once, and when it reports data to your IOCP you can process the data as needed (if another thread if needed) and then call WSARecvFrom() again. Each time new data arrives, you have to look at the reported lpFrom address to know the IP/Port of the sender. And yes, you can use the same UDP socket for sending data to each sender when needed.
I was wondering, how multiple applications can use the same network port. AFAIK in TCP protocol 1 port is assigned to 1 socket connection. So how, for example, more than one internet browser can use ports 80/8080 at the same time?
Can I bind more than one socket to the same port? How can I do that in C++?
A socket connection is uniquely identified by a combination of its local IP:Port and remote IP:Port. Multiple apps can be bound to the same local IP:Port as long as they are each connected to a different remote IP:Port.
If a local IP:Port is already bound for listening (bind() and listen() have been called for it), other sockets can still bind() to that same local IP:Port but only if the SO_REUSEADDR (and on some platforms, SO_REUSEPORT) socket option is used. Otherwise, the bind() fails with an "already in use" error.
When multiple client sockets connect() to the same remote IP:Port, a local binding is typically not specified, which allows connect() to perform an implicit bind() to a random available local IP:Port to avoid conflicts with other connections. If bind() is explicitly called and succeeds, and then connect() is called to connect to a remote IP:Port that is already connected to the local IP:Port, connect() will fail.
A TCP port can only have a single socket listening for connections. When a connection is made via accept() or friends, a new socket is generated, that represents this connection, while the single original listening socket keeps listening.
In TCP, which is a stateful protocol, a connection is defined uniquely by the tuple [source_ip, source_port, dest_ip, dest_port] (look at Eugen Rieck's comment above). So theoretically, each client(or set of clients behind a NAT) could connect to the server on any 16-bit port number (minus typically the ports from 0-1023).
When a web server is listening on port 80(for example) for incoming HTTP connections, each time the client tries to send an HTTP request to the server, the client initiates a TCP connection over a different client port. So the answer to how multiple applications can use the same network port is by having a different port on the other side.
When I'm trying to bind a UDP socket on a specific ip (other than 127.0.0.1/INADDR_LOOPBACK or 0.0.0.0/INADDR_ANY) it fails.
I need to have a dedicated UDP socket for each client (point to point connection).
If I don't bind the socket and use sendto and recvfrom function, the data never arrives.
Any obvious solution ?
You can't bind UDP sockets to nonlocal addresses -- binding a UDP socket to an address means that you want packets that are directed to that address, not ones that are being sent from that address. You'll need to figure out some way to share a single socket across all clients.
I am writing simple client-server program.
Client send some messages to server using UDP or TCP. Server must be able to support both UDP and TCP.
If client, sends message using UDP, sequence of method calls in client is socket(),bind(),sendto(),recvfrom(),close() and that in server is socket(),bind(),sendto(),recvfrom(),close().
If it uses TCP,
sequence of call in server is
socket(),bind(),listen(),accept(),send(),recv(),close().
and that in client is
socket(),bind(),connect(),send(),recv(),close()
In my program, user/client is given choice in the start to select what he want to use UDP or TCP. So, my main problem is how can I know or differentiate in the server side, if the client is sending message using TCP or UDP. If it uses TCP, I must call listen(),accept(),send(),recv()
and if it uses UDP, I don't call listen(),accept() but call sendto() and recvfrom().
So, how can I differentiate/know this in the beginning so that I can make appropriate function calls.
Thanks.
Before the packet reaches you, you don't know whether it's UDP or TCP.
So you want to bind to both UDP and TCP sockets if you expect requests both ways.
Once you did, you just know which way it came by the socket you received the packet through.
When you create the socket, you pass a type - SOCK_STREAM (TCP) or SOCK_DGRAM (UDP)
So the two kinds of traffic will be on two different sockets.
Just as Henry Troup pointed out, an IP socket is defined as
(transport, interface, port).
(UDP, 127.0.0.1, 80) is not the same IP socket as (TCP, 127.0.0.1, 80) , thus you can safely bind to both of them and listen for incoming traffic.
just let the TCP socket listen on port X, and do the UDP connections through port Y