#include <iostream>
#include <stdlib.h>
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
int num=-2147483648;
int positivenum=-num;
int absval=abs(num);
std::cout<<positivenum<<"\n";
std::cout<<absval<<"\n";
return 0;
}
Hi I am quite curious why the output of the above code is
-2147483648
-2147483648
Now I know that -2147483648 is the smallest represntable number among signed ints, (assuming an int is 32 bits). I would have assumed that one would get garbage answers only after we went below this number. But in this case, +2147483648 IS covered by the 32 bit system of integers. So why the negative answer in both cases?
But in this case, +2147483648 IS covered by the 32 bit system of integers.
Not quite correct. It only goes up to +2147483647. So your assumption isn't right.
Negating -2147483648 will indeed produce 2147483648, but it will overflow back to -2147483648.
Furthermore, signed integer overflow is technically undefined behavior.
The value -(-2147483648) is not possible in 32-bit signed int. The range of signed 32-bit int is –2147483648 to 2147483647
Ahhh, but its not... remember 0, largest signed is actually 2147483647
Because the 2's complement representation of signed integers isn't symmetric and the minimum 32-bit signed integer is -2147483648 while the maximum is +2147483647. That -2147483648 is its own counterpart just as 0 is (in the 2's complement representation there's only one 0, there're no distinct +0 and -0).
Here's some explanation.
A negative number -X when represented as N-bit 2's complement, is effectively represented as unsigned number that's equal to 2N-X. So, for 32-bit integers:
if X = 1, then -X = 232 - 1 = 4294967295
if X = 2147483647, then -X = 232 - 2147483647 = 2147483649
if X = 2147483648, then -X = 232 - 2147483648 = 2147483648
if X = -2147483648, then -X = 232 + 2147483648 = 2147483648 (because we only keep low 32 bits)
So, -2147483648 = +2147483648. Welcome to the world of 2's complement values.
The previous answers have all pointed out that the result is UB (Undefined Behaviour) because 2147483648 is not a valid int32_t value. And we all know, UB means anything can happen, including having daemons flying out of your nose. The question is, why does the cout behavior print out a negative value, which seems to be the worst value it could have chosen randomly ?
I'll try to justify it on a two's complement system. Negation on a CPU is actually somewhat of a tricky operation. You can't do it in one step. One way of implementing negation, i.e. int32_t positivenum = -num is to do a bit inversion followed by adding 1, i.e. int32_t positivenum = ~num + 1, where ~ is the bitwise negation operator and the +1 is to fix the off-by-one error. For example, negation of 0x00000000 is 0xFFFFFFFF + 1 which is 0x00000000 (after roll over which is what most CPUs do). You can verify that this works for most integers... except for 2147483648. 2147483648 is stored as 0x80000000 in two's complement. When you invert and add one, you get
- (min) = -(0x80000000)
= ~(0x80000000) + 1
= 0x7FFFFFFF + 1
= 0x80000000
= min
So magically, the unary operator - operating on min gives you back min!
One thing that is not obvious is that two-complement CPUs' arithmetic have no concept of positive or negative numbers! It treats all numbers as unsigned under the hood. There is just one adder circuit, and one multiplier circuit. The adder circuit works for positive and negative numbers, and the multiplier circuit works for positive and negative number.
Example: -1 * -1
= -1 * -1
= (cast both to uint32_t)
= 0xFFFFFFFF * 0xFFFFFFFF
= FFFFFFFE00000001 // if you do the result to 64 bit precision
= 0x00000001 // after you truncate to 32 bit precision
= 1
The only time you care about signed vs unsigned is for comparisons, like < or >.
Related
I declared signed char and stored 129, an 8-bit number, in it. when typecasted it into integer and printed the result, its -127. I understand that it is overflow, but the confusion occurs when you look at the binary of 129 which is 10000001. In signed char, most significant bit is reserved as a sign bit and rest of the 7 bits are used to store the number's binary. According to this concept, 129 should be stored as -1. MSG representing negative sign and rest of the 7-bits are 0000001 which makes 1.
How come 129 becomes -127 when the binary of 129 makes -1.
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int main() {
char a=129;
cout<<(int) a; // OUTPUT IS -127
return 0;
}
Your current idea of negative numbers is like this:
00000001 == 1
10000001 == -1
01111111 == 127
11111111 == -127
This means that you have only available range of integers -127...127 and
also you have two zeros. (00000000 == 0 and 10000000 == -0)
Best method is so called two's complement. For any number x, you negate binary representation and add 1 to get -x.
It means:
00000001 == 1
11111111 == -1
01111111 == 127
10000001 == -127
10000000 == -128
In this way only 00000000 is zero and you have the widest range -128...127.
Also CPU don't need additional instructions for adding signed numbers because it's identical to unsigned number addition and subtraction.
You may wonder, why to add 1. Without it, it's called one's complement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ones%27_complement
Every current computer stores low level signed integers in a format known as two's complement.
In two's complement, MAX_POSITIVE+1 is MIN_NEGATIVE.
0x00000000 is 0.
0x00....0V is V.
0x01....11 is MAX_POSITIVE
0x10....00 is MIN_NEGATIVE
0x11....11 is -1.
This looks weird at first glance.
But, it means that the logic of addition for positive and negative numbers is the same. In fact, signed and unsigned math works out to be the same, except on overflow a positive signed number becomes a negative number, while the overflow of a positive unsigned number wraps around to 0.
Note that in C++, overflowing a signed number is undefined behavior, not because the hardware traps it, but because by making it UB the compiler is free to assume "adding positive numbers together is positive". But at the machine code level, the implementation is 2s complement, and C++ has defined converting from signed to unsigned as following the 2s complement assumption.
I was curious to know what would happen if I assign a negative value to an unsigned variable.
The code will look somewhat like this.
unsigned int nVal = 0;
nVal = -5;
It didn't give me any compiler error. When I ran the program the nVal was assigned a strange value! Could it be that some 2's complement value gets assigned to nVal?
For the official answer - Section 4.7 conv.integral
"If the destination type is unsigned, the resulting value is the least unsigned integer congruent to the source integer (modulo 2n where n is the number of bits used to represent the unsigned type). [ Note: In a two’s complement representation, this conversion is conceptual and there is no change in the bit pattern (if there is no truncation). —end note ]
This essentially means that if the underlying architecture stores in a method that is not Two's Complement (like Signed Magnitude, or One's Complement), that the conversion to unsigned must behave as if it was Two's Complement.
It will assign the bit pattern representing -5 (in 2's complement) to the unsigned int. Which will be a large unsigned value. For 32 bit ints this will be 2^32 - 5 or 4294967291
You're right, the signed integer is stored in 2's complement form, and the unsigned integer is stored in the unsigned binary representation. C (and C++) doesn't distinguish between the two, so the value you end up with is simply the unsigned binary value of the 2's complement binary representation.
It will show as a positive integer of value of max unsigned integer - 4 (value depends on computer architecture and compiler).
BTW
You can check this by writing a simple C++ "hello world" type program and see for yourself
Yes, you're correct. The actual value assigned is something like all bits set except the third. -1 is all bits set (hex: 0xFFFFFFFF), -2 is all bits except the first and so on. What you would see is probably the hex value 0xFFFFFFFB which in decimal corresponds to 4294967291.
When you assign a negative value to an unsigned variable then it uses the 2's complement method to process it and in this method it flips all 0s to 1s and all 1s to 0s and then adds 1 to it. In your case, you are dealing with int which is of 4 byte(32 bits) so it tries to use 2's complement method on 32 bit number which causes the higher bit to flip. For example:
┌─[student#pc]─[~]
└──╼ $pcalc 0y00000000000000000000000000000101 # 5 in binary
5 0x5 0y101
┌─[student#pc]─[~]
└──╼ $pcalc 0y11111111111111111111111111111010 # flip all bits
4294967290 0xfffffffa 0y11111111111111111111111111111010
┌─[student#pc]─[~]
└──╼ $pcalc 0y11111111111111111111111111111010 + 1 # add 1 to that flipped binarry
4294967291 0xfffffffb 0y11111111111111111111111111111011
In Windows and Ubuntu Linux that I have checked assigning any negative number (not just -1) to an unsigned integer in C and C++ results in the assignment of the value UINT_MAX to that unsigned integer.
Compiled example link.
I was curious to know what would happen if I assign a negative value to an unsigned variable.
The code will look somewhat like this.
unsigned int nVal = 0;
nVal = -5;
It didn't give me any compiler error. When I ran the program the nVal was assigned a strange value! Could it be that some 2's complement value gets assigned to nVal?
For the official answer - Section 4.7 conv.integral
"If the destination type is unsigned, the resulting value is the least unsigned integer congruent to the source integer (modulo 2n where n is the number of bits used to represent the unsigned type). [ Note: In a two’s complement representation, this conversion is conceptual and there is no change in the bit pattern (if there is no truncation). —end note ]
This essentially means that if the underlying architecture stores in a method that is not Two's Complement (like Signed Magnitude, or One's Complement), that the conversion to unsigned must behave as if it was Two's Complement.
It will assign the bit pattern representing -5 (in 2's complement) to the unsigned int. Which will be a large unsigned value. For 32 bit ints this will be 2^32 - 5 or 4294967291
You're right, the signed integer is stored in 2's complement form, and the unsigned integer is stored in the unsigned binary representation. C (and C++) doesn't distinguish between the two, so the value you end up with is simply the unsigned binary value of the 2's complement binary representation.
It will show as a positive integer of value of max unsigned integer - 4 (value depends on computer architecture and compiler).
BTW
You can check this by writing a simple C++ "hello world" type program and see for yourself
Yes, you're correct. The actual value assigned is something like all bits set except the third. -1 is all bits set (hex: 0xFFFFFFFF), -2 is all bits except the first and so on. What you would see is probably the hex value 0xFFFFFFFB which in decimal corresponds to 4294967291.
When you assign a negative value to an unsigned variable then it uses the 2's complement method to process it and in this method it flips all 0s to 1s and all 1s to 0s and then adds 1 to it. In your case, you are dealing with int which is of 4 byte(32 bits) so it tries to use 2's complement method on 32 bit number which causes the higher bit to flip. For example:
┌─[student#pc]─[~]
└──╼ $pcalc 0y00000000000000000000000000000101 # 5 in binary
5 0x5 0y101
┌─[student#pc]─[~]
└──╼ $pcalc 0y11111111111111111111111111111010 # flip all bits
4294967290 0xfffffffa 0y11111111111111111111111111111010
┌─[student#pc]─[~]
└──╼ $pcalc 0y11111111111111111111111111111010 + 1 # add 1 to that flipped binarry
4294967291 0xfffffffb 0y11111111111111111111111111111011
In Windows and Ubuntu Linux that I have checked assigning any negative number (not just -1) to an unsigned integer in C and C++ results in the assignment of the value UINT_MAX to that unsigned integer.
Compiled example link.
I tryed to get MAX value for int, using tilde.But output is not what I have expected.
When I run this:
#include <stdio.h>
#include <limits.h>
int main(){
int a=0;
a=~a;
printf("\nMax value: %d",-a);
printf("\nMax value: %d",INT_MAX);
return 0;
}
I get output:
Max value: 1
Max value: 2147483647
I thought,(for exemple) if i have 0000 in RAM (i know that first bit shows is number pozitiv or negativ).After ~ 0000 => 1111 and after -(1111) => 0111 ,that I would get MAX value.
You have a 32-bit two's complement system. So - a = 0 is straightforward. ~a is 0xffffffff. In a 32-bit two's complement representation, 0xffffffff is -1. Basic algebra explains that -(-1) is 1, so that's where your first printout comes from. INT_MAX is 0x7fffffff.
Your logical error is in this statement: "-(1111) => 0111", which is not true. The arithmetic negation operation for a two's complement number is equivalent to ~x+1 - for your example:
~x + 1 = ~(0xffffffff) + 1
= 0x00000000 + 1
= 0x00000001
Is there a reason you can't use std::numeric_limits<int>::max()? Much easier and impossible to make simple mistakes.
In your case, assuming 32 bit int:
int a = 0; // a = 0
a = ~a; // a = 0xffffffff = -1 in any twos-comp system
a = -a; // a = 1
So that math is an incorrect way of computer the max. I can't see a formulaic way to compute the max: Just use numeric_limits (or INT_MAX if you're in a C-only codebase).
Your trick of using '~' to get maximum value works with unsigned integers. As others have pointed out, it doesn't work for signed integers.
Your posting shows an int which is equivalent to signed int. Try changing the type to unsigned int and see what happens.
There is no formula to compute the max value of a signed integer type in C. You simply must use the INT_MAX, etc. macros from limits.h and stdint.h.
binary 1...1111 would always represent -1. Simple math says -1 * -1 = 1!
Always remember there's just one zero: 0...0000. If you'd now swap the MSB and you'd be right, then you'd have 10...0000 which would then be -0 which can't be true (as 0 = -0 in math, but your binary numbers would be different).
Getting the negative value of a number isn't just about swapping the MSB.
It's not quite as straightforward as the top-bit indicating the sign. If it were, you could have both +0 and -0. You should read up on two's complement.
The correct answer is
max = (~0) >> 1;
I'm not a C/C++ expert, so you might need >>> instead. You need the shift operator that does NOT do sign extension.
In 2's complement notation 111111... is -1; now, the unary minus operator does not simply change the sign bit (otherwise it would provide strange results in every normal context), but computes correctly the opposite of the number, i.e. +1.
If you want to change the MSB you could use bitwise operators to simply set it to zero. Notice that however this way of finding the maximum value for the int type is not portable, since you're making assumptions about how the number is represented that are not required by the standard.
I was curious to know what would happen if I assign a negative value to an unsigned variable.
The code will look somewhat like this.
unsigned int nVal = 0;
nVal = -5;
It didn't give me any compiler error. When I ran the program the nVal was assigned a strange value! Could it be that some 2's complement value gets assigned to nVal?
For the official answer - Section 4.7 conv.integral
"If the destination type is unsigned, the resulting value is the least unsigned integer congruent to the source integer (modulo 2n where n is the number of bits used to represent the unsigned type). [ Note: In a two’s complement representation, this conversion is conceptual and there is no change in the bit pattern (if there is no truncation). —end note ]
This essentially means that if the underlying architecture stores in a method that is not Two's Complement (like Signed Magnitude, or One's Complement), that the conversion to unsigned must behave as if it was Two's Complement.
It will assign the bit pattern representing -5 (in 2's complement) to the unsigned int. Which will be a large unsigned value. For 32 bit ints this will be 2^32 - 5 or 4294967291
You're right, the signed integer is stored in 2's complement form, and the unsigned integer is stored in the unsigned binary representation. C (and C++) doesn't distinguish between the two, so the value you end up with is simply the unsigned binary value of the 2's complement binary representation.
It will show as a positive integer of value of max unsigned integer - 4 (value depends on computer architecture and compiler).
BTW
You can check this by writing a simple C++ "hello world" type program and see for yourself
Yes, you're correct. The actual value assigned is something like all bits set except the third. -1 is all bits set (hex: 0xFFFFFFFF), -2 is all bits except the first and so on. What you would see is probably the hex value 0xFFFFFFFB which in decimal corresponds to 4294967291.
When you assign a negative value to an unsigned variable then it uses the 2's complement method to process it and in this method it flips all 0s to 1s and all 1s to 0s and then adds 1 to it. In your case, you are dealing with int which is of 4 byte(32 bits) so it tries to use 2's complement method on 32 bit number which causes the higher bit to flip. For example:
┌─[student#pc]─[~]
└──╼ $pcalc 0y00000000000000000000000000000101 # 5 in binary
5 0x5 0y101
┌─[student#pc]─[~]
└──╼ $pcalc 0y11111111111111111111111111111010 # flip all bits
4294967290 0xfffffffa 0y11111111111111111111111111111010
┌─[student#pc]─[~]
└──╼ $pcalc 0y11111111111111111111111111111010 + 1 # add 1 to that flipped binarry
4294967291 0xfffffffb 0y11111111111111111111111111111011
In Windows and Ubuntu Linux that I have checked assigning any negative number (not just -1) to an unsigned integer in C and C++ results in the assignment of the value UINT_MAX to that unsigned integer.
Compiled example link.