Multiple postfix increment operator in an expression[C++] [duplicate] - c++

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Could anyone explain these undefined behaviors (i = i++ + ++i , i = i++, etc…)
I'm having my lecturer class right now and my lecturer mention an expression as follows:
int a , b;
a = 4;
b = a++ + a--;
The Question
My lecturer says this expression value can be defined: that it is 8. Which means both a value 4 is summed and assign to b before it's incremented and decremented.
But to me, I think this expression answer is kinda vague and the result will be based on the compiler implementation. That's because to me, the compiler might do the a++ part first—that is, use the value 4 and incremented the a to 5, after that the expression is 4 + 5 = 9 and is assigned to b then only the a is decremented.
It might also do the a-- part first by using the value 4 and decremented it by 1 to 3, and later on sum the value 4 with 3 and assign the value to b then only incremented the a back to 4.
My question is who's correct, my lecturer or me? Because I don't wanna get confused with it and later on will be a problem for me.

Your lecturer is wrong. Writing to the same variable twice without an intervening sequence point is undefined behaviour. From the spec, J.2 Undefined behaviour:
Between two sequence points, an object is modified more than once, or is modified and the prior value is read other than to determine the value to be stored (6.5).
The reference is to 6.5 Expressions, paragraph 5:
Between the previous and next sequence point an object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be read only to determine the value to be stored.
Annex C of the C spec has a handy list of all of the sequence points:
The following are the sequence points described in 5.1.2.3:
The call to a function, after the arguments have been evaluated (6.5.2.2).
The end of the first operand of the following operators: logical AND && (6.5.13); logical OR || (6.5.14); conditional ? (6.5.15); comma , (6.5.17).
The end of a full declarator: declarators (6.7.5);
The end of a full expression: an initializer (6.7.8); the expression in an expression statement (6.8.3); the controlling expression of a selection statement (if or switch) (6.8.4); the controlling expression of a while or do statement (6.8.5); each of the expressions of a for statement (6.8.5.3); the expression in a return statement (6.8.6.4).
Immediately before a library function returns (7.1.4).
After the actions associated with each formatted input/output function conversion specifier (7.19.6, 7.24.2).
Immediately before and immediately after each call to a comparison function, and also between any call to a comparison function and any movement of the objects passed as arguments to that call (7.20.5).

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Unexpected behaviour with cout and incrementing [duplicate]

Recently in an interview there was a following objective type question.
int a = 0;
cout << a++ << a;
Answers:
a. 10
b. 01
c. undefined behavior
I answered choice b, i.e. output would be "01".
But to my surprise later I was told by an interviewer that the correct answer is option c: undefined.
Now, I do know the concept of sequence points in C++. The behavior is undefined for the following statement:
int i = 0;
i += i++ + i++;
but as per my understanding for the statement cout << a++ << a , the ostream.operator<<() would be called twice, first with ostream.operator<<(a++) and later ostream.operator<<(a).
I also checked the result on VS2010 compiler and its output is also '01'.
You can think of:
cout << a++ << a;
As:
std::operator<<(std::operator<<(std::cout, a++), a);
C++ guarantees that all side effects of previous evaluations will have been performed at sequence points. There are no sequence points in between function arguments evaluation which means that argument a can be evaluated before argument std::operator<<(std::cout, a++) or after. So the result of the above is undefined.
C++17 update
In C++17 the rules have been updated. In particular:
In a shift operator expression E1<<E2 and E1>>E2, every value computation and side-effect of E1 is sequenced before every value computation and side effect of E2.
Which means that it requires the code to produce result b, which outputs 01.
See P0145R3 Refining Expression Evaluation Order for Idiomatic C++ for more details.
Technically, overall this is Undefined Behavior.
But, there are two important aspects to the answer.
The code statement:
std::cout << a++ << a;
is evaluated as:
std::operator<<(std::operator<<(std::cout, a++), a);
The standard does not define the order of evaluation of arguments to an function.
So Either:
std::operator<<(std::cout, a++) is evaluated first or
ais evaluated first or
it might be any implementation defined order.
This order is Unspecified[Ref 1] as per the standard.
[Ref 1]C++03 5.2.2 Function call
Para 8
The order of evaluation of arguments is unspecified. All side effects of argument expression evaluations take effect before the function is entered. The order of evaluation of the postfix expression and the argument expression list is unspecified.
Further, there is no sequence point between evaluation of arguments to a function but a sequence point exists only after evaluation of all arguments[Ref 2].
[Ref 2]C++03 1.9 Program execution [intro.execution]:
Para 17:
When calling a function (whether or not the function is inline), there is a sequence point after the evaluation of all function arguments (if any) which takes place before execution of any expressions or statements in the function body.
Note that, here the value of c is being accessed more than once without an intervening sequence point, regarding this the standard says:
[Ref 3]C++03 5 Expressions [expr]:
Para 4:
....
Between the previous and next sequence point a scalar object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be accessed only to determine the value to be stored. The requirements of this paragraph shall be met for each allowable ordering of the subexpressions of a full
expression; otherwise the behavior is undefined.
The code modifies c more than once without intervening sequence point and it is not being accessed to determine the value of the stored object. This is clear violation of the above clause and hence the result as mandated by the standard is Undefined Behavior[Ref 3].
Sequence points only define a partial ordering. In your case, you have
(once overload resolution is done):
std::cout.operator<<( a++ ).operator<<( a );
There is a sequence point between the a++ and the first call to
std::ostream::operator<<, and there is a sequence point between the
second a and the second call to std::ostream::operator<<, but there
is no sequence point between a++ and a; the only ordering
constraints are that a++ be fully evaluated (including side effects)
before the first call to operator<<, and that the second a be fully
evaluated before the second call to operator<<. (There are also
causual ordering constraints: the second call to operator<< cannot
preced the first, since it requires the results of the first as an
argument.) §5/4 (C++03) states:
Except where noted, the order of
evaluation of operands of individual operators and subexpressions of
individual expressions, and the order in which side effects take place,
is unspecified. Between the previous and next sequence point a scalar
object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the
evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be
accessed only to determine the value to be stored. The requirements of
this paragraph shall be met for each allowable ordering of the
subexpressions of a full expression; otherwise the behavior is
undefined.
One of the allowable orderings of your expression is a++, a, first
call to operator<<, second call to operator<<; this modifies the
stored value of a (a++), and accesses it other than to determine
the new value (the second a), the behavior is undefined.
The correct answer is to question the question. The statement is unacceptable because a reader cannot see a clear answer. Another way to look at it is that we have introduced side-effects (c++) that make the statement much harder to interpret. Concise code is great, providing it's meaning is clear.

Pointer arithmetic in C++ giving wrong output [duplicate]

Recently in an interview there was a following objective type question.
int a = 0;
cout << a++ << a;
Answers:
a. 10
b. 01
c. undefined behavior
I answered choice b, i.e. output would be "01".
But to my surprise later I was told by an interviewer that the correct answer is option c: undefined.
Now, I do know the concept of sequence points in C++. The behavior is undefined for the following statement:
int i = 0;
i += i++ + i++;
but as per my understanding for the statement cout << a++ << a , the ostream.operator<<() would be called twice, first with ostream.operator<<(a++) and later ostream.operator<<(a).
I also checked the result on VS2010 compiler and its output is also '01'.
You can think of:
cout << a++ << a;
As:
std::operator<<(std::operator<<(std::cout, a++), a);
C++ guarantees that all side effects of previous evaluations will have been performed at sequence points. There are no sequence points in between function arguments evaluation which means that argument a can be evaluated before argument std::operator<<(std::cout, a++) or after. So the result of the above is undefined.
C++17 update
In C++17 the rules have been updated. In particular:
In a shift operator expression E1<<E2 and E1>>E2, every value computation and side-effect of E1 is sequenced before every value computation and side effect of E2.
Which means that it requires the code to produce result b, which outputs 01.
See P0145R3 Refining Expression Evaluation Order for Idiomatic C++ for more details.
Technically, overall this is Undefined Behavior.
But, there are two important aspects to the answer.
The code statement:
std::cout << a++ << a;
is evaluated as:
std::operator<<(std::operator<<(std::cout, a++), a);
The standard does not define the order of evaluation of arguments to an function.
So Either:
std::operator<<(std::cout, a++) is evaluated first or
ais evaluated first or
it might be any implementation defined order.
This order is Unspecified[Ref 1] as per the standard.
[Ref 1]C++03 5.2.2 Function call
Para 8
The order of evaluation of arguments is unspecified. All side effects of argument expression evaluations take effect before the function is entered. The order of evaluation of the postfix expression and the argument expression list is unspecified.
Further, there is no sequence point between evaluation of arguments to a function but a sequence point exists only after evaluation of all arguments[Ref 2].
[Ref 2]C++03 1.9 Program execution [intro.execution]:
Para 17:
When calling a function (whether or not the function is inline), there is a sequence point after the evaluation of all function arguments (if any) which takes place before execution of any expressions or statements in the function body.
Note that, here the value of c is being accessed more than once without an intervening sequence point, regarding this the standard says:
[Ref 3]C++03 5 Expressions [expr]:
Para 4:
....
Between the previous and next sequence point a scalar object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be accessed only to determine the value to be stored. The requirements of this paragraph shall be met for each allowable ordering of the subexpressions of a full
expression; otherwise the behavior is undefined.
The code modifies c more than once without intervening sequence point and it is not being accessed to determine the value of the stored object. This is clear violation of the above clause and hence the result as mandated by the standard is Undefined Behavior[Ref 3].
Sequence points only define a partial ordering. In your case, you have
(once overload resolution is done):
std::cout.operator<<( a++ ).operator<<( a );
There is a sequence point between the a++ and the first call to
std::ostream::operator<<, and there is a sequence point between the
second a and the second call to std::ostream::operator<<, but there
is no sequence point between a++ and a; the only ordering
constraints are that a++ be fully evaluated (including side effects)
before the first call to operator<<, and that the second a be fully
evaluated before the second call to operator<<. (There are also
causual ordering constraints: the second call to operator<< cannot
preced the first, since it requires the results of the first as an
argument.) §5/4 (C++03) states:
Except where noted, the order of
evaluation of operands of individual operators and subexpressions of
individual expressions, and the order in which side effects take place,
is unspecified. Between the previous and next sequence point a scalar
object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the
evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be
accessed only to determine the value to be stored. The requirements of
this paragraph shall be met for each allowable ordering of the
subexpressions of a full expression; otherwise the behavior is
undefined.
One of the allowable orderings of your expression is a++, a, first
call to operator<<, second call to operator<<; this modifies the
stored value of a (a++), and accesses it other than to determine
the new value (the second a), the behavior is undefined.
The correct answer is to question the question. The statement is unacceptable because a reader cannot see a clear answer. Another way to look at it is that we have introduced side-effects (c++) that make the statement much harder to interpret. Concise code is great, providing it's meaning is clear.

mechanism of c++ increment operator [duplicate]

Recently in an interview there was a following objective type question.
int a = 0;
cout << a++ << a;
Answers:
a. 10
b. 01
c. undefined behavior
I answered choice b, i.e. output would be "01".
But to my surprise later I was told by an interviewer that the correct answer is option c: undefined.
Now, I do know the concept of sequence points in C++. The behavior is undefined for the following statement:
int i = 0;
i += i++ + i++;
but as per my understanding for the statement cout << a++ << a , the ostream.operator<<() would be called twice, first with ostream.operator<<(a++) and later ostream.operator<<(a).
I also checked the result on VS2010 compiler and its output is also '01'.
You can think of:
cout << a++ << a;
As:
std::operator<<(std::operator<<(std::cout, a++), a);
C++ guarantees that all side effects of previous evaluations will have been performed at sequence points. There are no sequence points in between function arguments evaluation which means that argument a can be evaluated before argument std::operator<<(std::cout, a++) or after. So the result of the above is undefined.
C++17 update
In C++17 the rules have been updated. In particular:
In a shift operator expression E1<<E2 and E1>>E2, every value computation and side-effect of E1 is sequenced before every value computation and side effect of E2.
Which means that it requires the code to produce result b, which outputs 01.
See P0145R3 Refining Expression Evaluation Order for Idiomatic C++ for more details.
Technically, overall this is Undefined Behavior.
But, there are two important aspects to the answer.
The code statement:
std::cout << a++ << a;
is evaluated as:
std::operator<<(std::operator<<(std::cout, a++), a);
The standard does not define the order of evaluation of arguments to an function.
So Either:
std::operator<<(std::cout, a++) is evaluated first or
ais evaluated first or
it might be any implementation defined order.
This order is Unspecified[Ref 1] as per the standard.
[Ref 1]C++03 5.2.2 Function call
Para 8
The order of evaluation of arguments is unspecified. All side effects of argument expression evaluations take effect before the function is entered. The order of evaluation of the postfix expression and the argument expression list is unspecified.
Further, there is no sequence point between evaluation of arguments to a function but a sequence point exists only after evaluation of all arguments[Ref 2].
[Ref 2]C++03 1.9 Program execution [intro.execution]:
Para 17:
When calling a function (whether or not the function is inline), there is a sequence point after the evaluation of all function arguments (if any) which takes place before execution of any expressions or statements in the function body.
Note that, here the value of c is being accessed more than once without an intervening sequence point, regarding this the standard says:
[Ref 3]C++03 5 Expressions [expr]:
Para 4:
....
Between the previous and next sequence point a scalar object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be accessed only to determine the value to be stored. The requirements of this paragraph shall be met for each allowable ordering of the subexpressions of a full
expression; otherwise the behavior is undefined.
The code modifies c more than once without intervening sequence point and it is not being accessed to determine the value of the stored object. This is clear violation of the above clause and hence the result as mandated by the standard is Undefined Behavior[Ref 3].
Sequence points only define a partial ordering. In your case, you have
(once overload resolution is done):
std::cout.operator<<( a++ ).operator<<( a );
There is a sequence point between the a++ and the first call to
std::ostream::operator<<, and there is a sequence point between the
second a and the second call to std::ostream::operator<<, but there
is no sequence point between a++ and a; the only ordering
constraints are that a++ be fully evaluated (including side effects)
before the first call to operator<<, and that the second a be fully
evaluated before the second call to operator<<. (There are also
causual ordering constraints: the second call to operator<< cannot
preced the first, since it requires the results of the first as an
argument.) §5/4 (C++03) states:
Except where noted, the order of
evaluation of operands of individual operators and subexpressions of
individual expressions, and the order in which side effects take place,
is unspecified. Between the previous and next sequence point a scalar
object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the
evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be
accessed only to determine the value to be stored. The requirements of
this paragraph shall be met for each allowable ordering of the
subexpressions of a full expression; otherwise the behavior is
undefined.
One of the allowable orderings of your expression is a++, a, first
call to operator<<, second call to operator<<; this modifies the
stored value of a (a++), and accesses it other than to determine
the new value (the second a), the behavior is undefined.
The correct answer is to question the question. The statement is unacceptable because a reader cannot see a clear answer. Another way to look at it is that we have introduced side-effects (c++) that make the statement much harder to interpret. Concise code is great, providing it's meaning is clear.

Why is this statement not changin the array? [duplicate]

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Why are these constructs using pre and post-increment undefined behavior?
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Closed 9 years ago.
int a[]={1,2,3,5};
int i=1;
a[++i]=a[i];
int j;
for(j=0;j<4;j++)
{
printf("%d",a[j]);
}
output:1235;
why the output is 1225 and not 1335.
I executed this program on codeblocks. In a[++i]=a[i], Right to left assignment will be their,leading to a[2]=a[1]. Correct me if i am wrong.
Because a[++i]=a[i]; is undefined behavior.
A sequence point is a point in time at which the dust has settled and all side effects which have been seen so far are guaranteed to be complete. The sequence points listed in the C standard are:
at the end of the evaluation of a full expression (a full
expression is an expression statement, or any other expression which
is not a subexpression within any larger expression);
at the ||, &&, ?:, and comma operators; and
at a function call (after the evaluation of all the arguments, and just before the actual call).
The standard states that
Between the previous and next sequence point an object shall have its
stored value modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression.
Furthermore, the prior value shall be accessed only to determine the
value to be stored.
a[++i]=a[i]; // this is undefined
If you only want to change single element of the array ... do it by referencing it directly:
int a[]={1,2,3,5};
int i=1;
a[i]++; // this will increment the ith element of the array by 1
int j;
for(j=0;j<4;j++)
{
printf("%d",a[j]);
}
Output:
1335
a[++i]=a[i]; is undefined behavior. Because according to C99 section 6.5 paragraph 2
Between the previous and next sequence point an object shall have its
stored value modified at most once by the evaluation of an
expression.72) Furthermore, the prior value shall be read only to
determine the value to be stored.73)
= is not a sequence point. Check annex C.
You are modifying the value i one time, but "the prior value shall be read only to determine the value to be stored" is violated as you do a[++i].
Check Footnote 73) for an example of what the paragraph says.
73)This paragraph renders undefined statement expressions such as
i = ++i + 1;
a[i++] = i;
while allowing
i = i + 1;
a[i] = i;
Therefore what the outcome will be cannot be determined. For different run and/or across different computers you can get different results. Such kind of expressions should not be used in C programming.
a[++i] = a[i] is undefined behavior. look-up this presentation.

increment and decrement output behaviour [duplicate]

Recently in an interview there was a following objective type question.
int a = 0;
cout << a++ << a;
Answers:
a. 10
b. 01
c. undefined behavior
I answered choice b, i.e. output would be "01".
But to my surprise later I was told by an interviewer that the correct answer is option c: undefined.
Now, I do know the concept of sequence points in C++. The behavior is undefined for the following statement:
int i = 0;
i += i++ + i++;
but as per my understanding for the statement cout << a++ << a , the ostream.operator<<() would be called twice, first with ostream.operator<<(a++) and later ostream.operator<<(a).
I also checked the result on VS2010 compiler and its output is also '01'.
You can think of:
cout << a++ << a;
As:
std::operator<<(std::operator<<(std::cout, a++), a);
C++ guarantees that all side effects of previous evaluations will have been performed at sequence points. There are no sequence points in between function arguments evaluation which means that argument a can be evaluated before argument std::operator<<(std::cout, a++) or after. So the result of the above is undefined.
C++17 update
In C++17 the rules have been updated. In particular:
In a shift operator expression E1<<E2 and E1>>E2, every value computation and side-effect of E1 is sequenced before every value computation and side effect of E2.
Which means that it requires the code to produce result b, which outputs 01.
See P0145R3 Refining Expression Evaluation Order for Idiomatic C++ for more details.
Technically, overall this is Undefined Behavior.
But, there are two important aspects to the answer.
The code statement:
std::cout << a++ << a;
is evaluated as:
std::operator<<(std::operator<<(std::cout, a++), a);
The standard does not define the order of evaluation of arguments to an function.
So Either:
std::operator<<(std::cout, a++) is evaluated first or
ais evaluated first or
it might be any implementation defined order.
This order is Unspecified[Ref 1] as per the standard.
[Ref 1]C++03 5.2.2 Function call
Para 8
The order of evaluation of arguments is unspecified. All side effects of argument expression evaluations take effect before the function is entered. The order of evaluation of the postfix expression and the argument expression list is unspecified.
Further, there is no sequence point between evaluation of arguments to a function but a sequence point exists only after evaluation of all arguments[Ref 2].
[Ref 2]C++03 1.9 Program execution [intro.execution]:
Para 17:
When calling a function (whether or not the function is inline), there is a sequence point after the evaluation of all function arguments (if any) which takes place before execution of any expressions or statements in the function body.
Note that, here the value of c is being accessed more than once without an intervening sequence point, regarding this the standard says:
[Ref 3]C++03 5 Expressions [expr]:
Para 4:
....
Between the previous and next sequence point a scalar object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be accessed only to determine the value to be stored. The requirements of this paragraph shall be met for each allowable ordering of the subexpressions of a full
expression; otherwise the behavior is undefined.
The code modifies c more than once without intervening sequence point and it is not being accessed to determine the value of the stored object. This is clear violation of the above clause and hence the result as mandated by the standard is Undefined Behavior[Ref 3].
Sequence points only define a partial ordering. In your case, you have
(once overload resolution is done):
std::cout.operator<<( a++ ).operator<<( a );
There is a sequence point between the a++ and the first call to
std::ostream::operator<<, and there is a sequence point between the
second a and the second call to std::ostream::operator<<, but there
is no sequence point between a++ and a; the only ordering
constraints are that a++ be fully evaluated (including side effects)
before the first call to operator<<, and that the second a be fully
evaluated before the second call to operator<<. (There are also
causual ordering constraints: the second call to operator<< cannot
preced the first, since it requires the results of the first as an
argument.) §5/4 (C++03) states:
Except where noted, the order of
evaluation of operands of individual operators and subexpressions of
individual expressions, and the order in which side effects take place,
is unspecified. Between the previous and next sequence point a scalar
object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the
evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be
accessed only to determine the value to be stored. The requirements of
this paragraph shall be met for each allowable ordering of the
subexpressions of a full expression; otherwise the behavior is
undefined.
One of the allowable orderings of your expression is a++, a, first
call to operator<<, second call to operator<<; this modifies the
stored value of a (a++), and accesses it other than to determine
the new value (the second a), the behavior is undefined.
The correct answer is to question the question. The statement is unacceptable because a reader cannot see a clear answer. Another way to look at it is that we have introduced side-effects (c++) that make the statement much harder to interpret. Concise code is great, providing it's meaning is clear.