I've been doing a bit of research and cannot seem to quite capture the information I need. Our software offers a public api (webservice) which our clients can implement using HTTPS calls through cURL. Many of our clients use SAP, which I most honestly know next to nothing about (nor does anybody on our crew).
I'm trying to put together a big picture of what those clients would have to do to easily communicate with our webservices. What requirements would SAP clients have? I've read a bit about the WebServices framework in SAP but that doesn't quite seem to be what I need.
Is it simple to create or use existing SAP modules in any language that could connect to a remote webservice through cURL?
Can I find any valuable documentation out there that I could / should read ?
I'm not sure if you'll like this answer, but I'll write it anyway. :-)
If "webservice" means SOAP/WSDL for you, then it should be technically possible to generate some proxies to facilitate communication with your application. If you're talking about REST or some home-brewn stuff, it's a bit more work, but it's still possible. There's an example available in the SAP help portal. (And by the way, "some language" means ABAP.)
HOWEVER: You will need someone with SAP experience in the area you're interested in (materials management, sales, whatever). And you'll probably need someone to code some bits and pieces in the SAP system to make the interface work OR your clients will need some kind of communication server (PI) in between OR both. Unless you've got a customer who will let you play and gain experience in their system, you'll also need a SAP installation to do this.
Unfortunately, the big picture might be even bigger than you imagine...
EDIT: If you want to get an idea of what ABAP is, this answer might be a starting point.
For connecting an SAP system with other systems, consider using SAP NetWeaver Process Integration (SAP PI). It is a part of SAP Netweaver that has the explicit purpose of communicating between various SAP systems as well as other (third party) systems. It's the core component of any SAP flavored service-oriented architecture (SOA).
From Wikipedia :
SAP calls PI an integration broker because it mediates
between entities with varying requirements in terms of connectivity,
format, and protocols. According to SAP, PI reduces the TCO
by providing a common repository for interfaces. The central component
of SAP PI is the SAP Integration Server, which facilitates
interaction between diverse operating systems and applications across
internal and external networked computer systems.
PI is built upon the SAP Web Application Server.
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I would like to create a web service in .Net that clients of different types (Web, exe, java) can consume despite of the language they are written with.
In addition, it needs to support callbacks and be able to easily pass through firewalls and NATs (knowing a client internal IP might change, or be removed from NAT).
Thirdly, since it is an enterprise product, I want to avoid being dependent on 3rd parties, especially ones that demand a certain environment or that customer will not want.
What kind of technologies or approaches can I use?
I am looking at web sockets, but there also I see a lot of complexities and I am not sure there aren't a lot of topology and interoperability border cases that may make me unreliable.
Thanks
For simple request-response services, you can use REST (over HTTP). Any client technology can access HTTP at this point (even CLI) and REST is a well-known and well-understood distributed mechanism. The issue involves the callbacks. There are frameworks that handle HTTP callbacks (simple google search will give you good answers), but imo, the solutions that I have seen are clumsy.
Unlike normal HTTP, WebSocket is a persistent connection. And like any other IETF and W3C specification (or any other standard for that matter), there are various implementations with various degrees of reliability, performance, etc. There are probably about 100 implementations of WebSocket clients and servers. Some implementations handle real-world issues like reconnections, network intermediaries, high scalability, mobile capabilities, etc... and some implementations just do not. I would suggest you pick an implementation that provides these enterprise-grade features.
Btw, WebSocket is pretty darn simple
What C++ software stack do developers use to create custom fast, responsive and not very resource hungry web services?
I'd recommend you to take a look on CppCMS:
http://cppcms.com
It exactly fits the situation you had described:
performance-oriented (preferably web service) software stack
for C++ web development.
It should have a low memory footprint
work on UNIX (FreeBSD) and Linux systems
perform well under high server load and be able to handle many requests with great efficiency
[as I plan to use it in a virtual environment] where resources will be to some extent limited.
So far I have only come across Staff WSF, Boost, Poco libraries. The latter two could be used to implement a custom web server...
The problem that web server is about 2% of web development there are so much stuff to handle:
web templates
sessions
cache
forms
security-security-security - which is far from being trivial
And much more, that is why you need web frameworks.
You could write an apache module, and put all your processing code in there.
Or there's CppCMS, or Treefrog or for writing web services (not web sites) use gSOAP or Apache Axis
But ultimately, there's no "easy to use framework" because C++ developers like to build apps from smaller components. There's no Ruby-style framework, but there is all manner of libraries for handling xml or whatever, and Apache offers the http protocol bits in the module spec so you can build up your app quite happily using whatever pieces make sense to you. Now whether there's a market for bundling this up to make something easier to use is another matter.
Personally, the best web app system I wrote (for a company) used a very think web layer in the web server (IIS and ASP, but this applies to any webserver, use php for example) that did nothing except act as a gateway to pass the data from the requests through to a C++ service. The C++ service could then be written completely as a normal C++ command line server with well-defined entry points, using as thin an RPC system as possible (shared memory, but you may want to check out ZeroMQ), which not only increased security but allowed us to easily scale by shifting the services to app servers and running the web servers on different hardware. It was also really easy to test.
Our team is in the design phase of a client-server database software project. We're intending to develop a single database server system, probably using MySQL with a database interface/abstraction layer, possibly written in Java. We will also (eventually) have multiple client programs talking to the server. So the question is, what do we use for communication between the server and what could end up being several totally different clients? (Think Android, iPhone, desktop, or even a Web server, forwarding to a browser.)
The two main camps right now are arguing between using:
1. completely custom socket software, because it should allow system independence,
2. exposing a Web service of some kind, because it would provide higher-level functionality
Any ideas? I know "Web service" and "Web API" are very general terms that sort of evoke nauseating buzzword-crazy five-year-old tech media, but they are definitely a valid option. Right?
Plain socket APIs have the advantage of working anywhere. The disadvantage is that they're hard to do right.
Since it sounds like you're going to end up with a database-like API over the network, you should at least consider oData.
I'd like to give external access to a web application. Several applications on many clients will use this service extensively (hopefully), which will always lead to CRUD functions on a database.
Is a webservice always the first choice? Is there any rule of thumb when to choose webservices, sockets, etc?
It really depends on who your clients are, what kind of performance are you looking at, how well your clients know the technologies.
Sockets etc might give you a good performance speed but development time might increase for both, you and your clients.
SOAP web services established a standard quite some time back but now people are using REST web services more because of its simplicity and less overhead.
I am heavily impressed by the RESTful webservices offered by twilio
I am sure that Twilio is receiving hundreds of thousands of calls a day and they are performing just well.
Have a look at the following articles for more understanding about them
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-restful/
http://grails.org/doc/1.0.x/guide/13.%20Web%20Services.html
The big benefit of web services is the ease of use and the predefined interface, but they are "slower" compared to low level socket communication, because for example the XML Requests/Respnses of a SOAP-Service needs to be created/interpreded.
So I would say if you open the service to "outsider" use web services unless speed is really the biggest concern.
Also because web services are mostly accessable through port 80 you have much less problems with proxy/firewalls than with a socket on a random other port.
If you are having a high work load cahcing is also very important because it can speed up the system dramaticaly.
I would choose a web services (SOAP or REST) whenever I can. It's easier to scale a web service than a home brew socket implementation and it takes less time to build a webservice.
Sockets is usually the preferred choice if you need two-way communication (I know that WCF has callbacks).
Webservice makes it a generic way for different type of clients and applications to exchange data also it is dependent on your architecure and infrastructure.
Socket programming is bit complex and some time may create problem in data exchange. It entirely depends on your fuctionaly requirements and architecure which should you use.
if your clients will consume this data from browsers of application then webservice is better choice.
I'm working on a project of which a large part is server side software. I started programming in C++ using the sockets library. But, one of my partners suggested that we use a standard server like IIS, Apache or nginx.
Which one is better to do, in the long run? When I program it in C++, I have direct access to the raw requests where as in the case of using standard servers I need to use a scripting language to handle the requests. In any case, which one is the better option and why?
Also, when it comes to security for things like DDOS attacks etc., do the standard servers already have protection? If I would want to implement it in my socket server, what is the best way?
"Server side software" could mean lots of different things, for example this could be a trivial app which "echoes" everything back on a specific port, to a telnet/ftp server to a webserver running lots of "services".
So where in this gamut of possibilities does your particular application lie? Without further information, it's difficult to make any suggestions, but let's see..
Web Services, i.e. your "server side" requirement is to handle individual requests and respond having done some set of business logic. Typically communication is via SOAP/XML, and this is ideal if you bave web based clients (though nothing prevents your from accessing these services via standalone clients). Typially you host these on web servers as you mentioned, and often they are easiest written in Java (I've yet to come across one that needed to be written in C++!)
Simple web site - slightly different to the above, respods to HTML get/post requests and serves up static or dymanic content (I'm guessing this is not what you're after!)
Standalone server which responds to something specific, here you'd have to implement your own "messaging"/protocols etc. and the server will carry out a specific function on incoming request and potentially send responses back. Key thing here is that the server does something specific, and is not a generic container (at which point 1 makes more sense!)
So where does your application lie? If 1/2 use Java or some scripting language (such as Perl/ASP/JSP etc.) If 3, you can certainly use C++, and if you do, use a suitable abstraction, such as boost::asio and Google Protocol buffers, save yourself a lot of headache...
With regards to security, ofcourse bugs and security holes are found all the time, however the good thing with some of these OS projects is that the community will tackle and fix them. Let's just say, you'll be safer using them than your own custom handrolled imlpementation, the likelyhood that you'll be able to address all the issues that they would have encountered in the years they've been around is very small (no disrespect to your abilities!)
EDIT: now that there's a little more info, here is one possible approach (this is what I've done in the past, and I've jused Java most of the way..)
The client facing server should be something reliable, esp. if it's over the internet, here I would use a proven product, something like Apache is good or IIS (depends on which technologies you have available). IMHO, I would go for jBoss AS - really powerful and easily customisable piece of kit, and integrates really nicely with lots of different things (all Java ofcourse!) You could then have a simple bit of Java which can then delegate to your actual Server processes that do the work..
For the Server procesess you can use C++ if that's what you are comfortable with
There is one key bit which I left out, and this is how 1 & 2 talk to each other. This is where you should look at an open source messaging product (even more higher level than asio or protocol buffers), and here I would look at something like Zero MQ, or Red Hat Messaging (both are MQ messaging protocols), the great advantage of this type of "messaging bus" is that there is no tight coupling between your servers, with your own handrolled implementation, you'll be doing lots of boilerplate to get the interaction to work just right, with something like MQ, you'll have multiplatform communication without having to get into the details... You wil save yourself a lot of time and bother if you elect to use something like that.. (btw. there are other messaging products out there, and some are easier to use - such as Tibco RV or EMS etc, however they are commercial products and licenses will cost a lot of money!)
With a messaging solution your servers become trivial as they simply handle incoming messagins and send messages back out again, and you can focus on the business logic...
my two pennies... :)
If you opt for 1st solution in Nim's list (web services) I would suggest you to have a look at WSO's web services framework for C++ , Axis CPP and Axis2/C web services framework (if you are not restricted to C++). Web Services might be the best solution for your requirement as you can quickly build them and use either as processing or proxy modules on the server side of your system.