As of 2011: Netbeans 7 or Eclipse Indigo for C++? - c++

This is basically a duplicate of:
Netbeans or Eclipse for C++?
But, that question as 3+ years old, and a lot has changed since then.
I have a large code base with a custom (but Makefile based) build system. The areas I am specifically wondering about include:
Syntax highlighting
Code navigation.
Code hints.
"ReSharper style" code helpers.
Documentation integration.
Debugger UI and features.
Has anyone had the chance to evaluate both Netbeans and Eclipse?
EDIT: As a followup question, are any of the Netbeans users here concerned with its future given Oracle's recent bad history with "open" efforts? (Open Solaris, MySQL, Open Office)
Thank you

I cannot comment on eclipse, but on netbeans 7 I will say things that are very important for me and that work fine so far:
code completion, go to declarations
pkg-config automatic include management for parsing
stuff that sometimes works and sometimes don't
find usages, sometimes it might fail to find usages in other open projects
debugger sometimes gets confused with unittest-cpp macros and it will not go on the appropiate line
stuff that are not yet working and i care deeply:
C++0x syntax highlighting (auto, lambdas, enum class, variadic templates, none of them are recognized by the built-in parser)
stuff that is not quite working but i could not care less:
git integration. I enjoy using git from command-line so this is a non-issue
in all, the IDE is very usable. I hope to have a chance to try out latest cdt on Indigo Eclipse, but so far i haven't that much of a real reason to investigate

I cannot comment on Netbeans, but I can offer you information on Eclipse. I work with C++ on UNIX systems, and I have started to use Eclipse when exploring large code bases that I know little about. I don't use it to build, but it would be easy to integrate our build system with it as one only needs commands.
Eclipse has most of what you are looking for: (I'm speaking of Eclipse/CDT)
Not only can you completely customize your syntax highlighting, you can also have it format the code with templates. My company has a code standard for spacing, tabs and formatting of functions and conditional code, and with little effort I was able to modify an existing template to meet our code standards.
The navigation is not bad, if you highlight and hover over a variable, it shows you the definition in a small pop-up bubble. If you do the same for a type, it will you show you where the type is defined. For functions, it will show the first few lines of the implementation of the function, with an option to expand it and see the whole function. I find all of these nice for code discovery and navigation. You can also highlight a variable, and use a right-click menu option to jump to its declaration.
I suppose by code hints you are referring to something like intellisense? This is the main reason why I use Eclipse when looking over a large code base. Just hit the '.' or '->' and a second later you get your options.
The debugger UI is quite capable. You can launch gdb within the tool and it allows you to graphically move through your code just as you would in a tool like ddd or Visual C++. It offers standard features like viewing registers, memory, watching variables, etc.
That being said, I have found some weaknesses. The first is that it doesn't really strongly support revision control systems outside of CVS and SVN very easily (integrated into the GUI). I found a plug-in for the system we use at my company, but it spews XML and Unicode garbage. It was easier to just use the revision control on the command line. I suspect this is the plug-in's issue and not Eclipse. I wish there were better tool integration though.
The second complaint is that for each project I have to manually setup the include directories and library paths. Perhaps with an environment variable this could be circumvented? Or I may just do not know how to set things up correctly. Then again if it is not obvious to a developer how to do this, I consider that a weakness of the tool.
All in all I like working with Eclipse. It is not my main editing environment, but I appreciate it for working on large code bases.

I'm a huge fan of Netbeans. I am in a similar situation to yours, but creating the project was very easy. Just point Netbeans at where the code is checked out and it figures out most things for itself. I rarely have to do any configuration. One thing to note though, if your tree is very large, it can take some time to fully index - and while it does, memory and cpu will be hosed on the box.
The integration with cvs is awesome, and the Hudson integration is very cool for CB. I've not used Git myself, though I should imagine it's a no-brainer.
One thing that does irritate me no end is that it does not behave very well with code relying heavily on templates. i.e. shows lots of warnings and errors about types not being found etc.
I have not used the latest version of Eclipse, I tried the major release before the current one and gave up because it did not have the same smooth project integration with the makefiles etc. I find it's not as nice if you don't want to use it's make system - though I could be wrong.
I don't use any of the code formatting provided, I instead prefer something like AStyle instead. I know that NetBeans does a good job with Java - but have not used it for C++. CDT I seem to remember doing some odd stuff with indentation when formatting C++ code - esp. if templates are involved - but that was atleast two years ago.
Hope some of it helps - the best way to do this is to download and try for yourself and see what works for you. Anything we tell you is purely subjective.

I used to work with Netbeans with MinGW, I Just tried 7.0.1.
I currently use Eclipse Indigo with CDT and MinGW - It's better performance wise (less CPU & Memory).
Netbeans creates a makefile to compile all the time,
In Eclipse you can build directly with the CDT-Toolchain or use Makefile - Eclipse is more flexible.
Debugging: Netbeans might be better in Solaris/Linux.
I Personally rather eclipse over Netbeans, I think eclipse is more professional.

One particular issue that causes me quite a lot of grief with Netbeans 7.0 is that it tends to want to work with utf8 files, and not all of out c++ projects are utf8. It will issue a warning about opening such a file, and if you do open it, will corrupt said file, which is a pain.
I've not found out how to properly make netbeans handle this. Apparently the encoding can be changed, but for the entire project. So presumably changing it to us-acii would stop this problem, although non ascii characters wouldn't display properly.

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Debugging C++ on Windows

I'm trying to implement a Suffix Trie to search strings using C++ for a programming assignment. Now I've started coding things with Vim/Ubuntu on a virtual machine (since I run windows), partly because it's encouraged by our lecturer not to use IDEs and compile things manually, and partly because the VM is too slow to run a decent IDE anyway.
But my program has grown quite large and I need to debug things. I've grown quite fond of both Eclipse's and CLion's debuggers in the past, so I decided to copy and paste my workspace to a windows directory, just for debugging.
I’m using C++11 and MinGW as a compiler, and programs run just fine:
But when I tried to debug the program, I got the message:
So I decided to try debugging in Eclipse instead. This time it sort of worked, but it isn't treating my std::string objects as strings, but rather as just objects with lots of properties in them:
This is obviously a problem since I'm dealing a lot with std::strings. Now I've read online that this is related to the whole pretty printers thing I got with CLion, but I haven't been able to find anything which tells me how to get things set up with MinGW. I'd appreciate any advice.
I was trying to figure out the same thing few days back. After Googling for hours and compiling all the stuff into one place, I have created a detailed post which might here.
Here is the link: https://dev.to/abhinav1602/how-to-run-vs-code-c-debugger-on-windows-4d3

Simple C++ source instrumentation?

I want to use Shiny on a large-ish C++ code base, but I'd rather not add the required PROFILE_FUNC() calls to my source. I figure it's easy enough to write a script that for each source file, regex-searches for function definitions, adds a macro call just after the opening bracket and pipes the result to g++; but that seems an awfully obvious source-code instrumentation case, so much so I find it hard to believe no-one has come up with a better solution already.
Unfortunately, searching around I could only find references to LLVM / clang instrumentation and the odd research tool, which look like overly complicated solutions to my comparatively simple problem. In fact, there seems to be no straightforward way to perform simple automated code edits to C/C++ code just prior to compilation.
Is that so? Or am I missing something?
Update: I forgot to mention this "C++ code base" is a native application I am porting to Android. So I can use neither gprof (which isn't available on Android), Valgrind (which requires an older version of the NDK than what i'm using) nor the android-ndk-profiler (which is for dynamic libraries loaded by Android Activities, either Java or native, not plain executables). Hence my looking into Shiny.
Update 2: Despite previous claims I actually managed to build Valgrind on Android NDK r8e, so I settled on using it instead of Shiny. However I still think the original question is valid: isn't there any straightforward tool for effecting simple compile-time edits to C / C++ source files – some sort of macro preprocessor on steroids?
You can consider gprof or valgrind. If memory serves, gprof uses instrumentation and valgrind is a sampling-based profiler. Neither of them requires you to annotate source code.
You can use the android ndk profiler to profile C/C++ code
More info here
http://code.google.com/p/android-ndk-profiler/
You use gprof to analyse the results

How to conveniently refactor OCaml project?

I am using Emacs + Tuareg mode to do my OCaml project.
It is working fine and I get used to it.
However, along with my project source base getting bigger and bigger, I find managing the project is getting harder and harder.
Especially for refactoring. If I change a module name or function name, I have to search everywhere for the part that need to changed accordingly or I just constantly compile again and again to let compiler tell me where I should go.
It is not convenient.
Anyone can suggest a good way for source base management?
thanks
A good option is TypeRex. This is an alternative Emacs mode created by OCamlPro that has a bunch of OCaml-aware features including proper support for refactoring (like renaming identifiers).
It also has a bunch of other nice features like good auto-complete, semantic grep and so on.
Unfortunately, this involves changing your build process to use some wrapper programs. These generate the additional information the mode needs to function. However, once you get the build set up, it's a really awesome editing environment.

C++ code formatting

I've been using VS2005 and VS2008 now for a while, with C#. Without any additional tools I could hit ctrl k + d and the code would nicely reformat. Why doesn't C++ do this?
It's the same Visual Studio after all. Is there a way to enable it?
A second part of this question is related, for those who've been using resharper with C#, is there a similar tool for C++?
You can use Ctrl-K+Ctrl-F for "format selection".
Link
It's probably there, but mapped to a different keyboard shortcut. For example, on my VS2008 install Ctrl+K,D doesn't map to anything but Ctrl+E,D maps to the Edit|Advanced|Format Document command.
You can always use AStyle to format your code. Works great!
For me it's always been select text, CTRL + K, F. It doesn't do as well as in Visual C# though; there are no customization options beside the most basic ones.
Edit: in 2017 this answer seems outdated. I recommend clang-format for "anything", for "anyone".
Original answer:
Ontopic: In VS2008 Express Format Selection is ALT+F8 and CTRL+K, CTRL+D is mapped to Format Document. It's probably the same in professional versions of VS2008.
Less ontopic: I tend to avoid source code formatters for C++ as I feel they generally often does more harm than good. Why? Codeformaters has to "read" the code and understand what the different code statements do. This is quite easy in e.g. Java where the syntax is straight forward. C++ is a very complex language. There's 10 ways to do just about anything. You can use macros, defines, typedefs and whatnot. Classes are usually defined/declared in two different files. This is also the reason that Intellisense seems to fail quite often - VS2008 fails parsing the code correctly. It's very hard for an IDE to know what all statements is and how to format them. Although it may work ok most of the time, you can be pretty sure that it will give bad results now and then. I'm guessing Microsoft didn't spend too much time customizing the code formatter for C++ as they realize that most C++-programmers do this by hand anyways. I rarely miss it, except when some co-worker of mine isn't following the company standard.
**For C/C++ code formatting you can use bcpp [ apt-get install bcpp ].
This program will run under Linux/Unix and MS DOS V3.3
There is config file so you can be creative.
**Interesting tool for C/C++/C#/Java proposed by Qt is astyle
[ apt-get install astyle ]

Autocompletion in Vim

In a nutshell, I'm searching for a working autocompletion feature for the Vim editor. I've argued before that Vim completely replaces an IDE under Linux and while that's certainly true, it lacks one important feature: autocompletion.
I know about Ctrl+N, Exuberant Ctags integration, Taglist, cppcomplete and OmniCppComplete. Alas, none of these fits my description of “working autocompletion:”
Ctrl+N works nicely (only) if you've forgotton how to spell class, or while. Oh well.
Ctags gives you the rudiments but has a lot of drawbacks.
Taglist is just a Ctags wrapper and as such, inherits most of its drawbacks (although it works well for listing declarations).
cppcomplete simply doesn't work as promised, and I can't figure out what I did wrong, or if it's “working” correctly and the limitations are by design.
OmniCppComplete seems to have the same problems as cppcomplete, i.e. auto-completion doesn't work properly. Additionally, the tags file once again needs to be updated manually.
I'm aware of the fact that not even modern, full-blown IDEs offer good C++ code completion. That's why I've accepted Vim's lack in this area until now. But I think a fundamental level of code completion isn't too much to ask, and is in fact required for productive usage. So I'm searching for something that can accomplish at least the following things.
Syntax awareness. cppcomplete promises (but doesn't deliver for me), correct, scope-aware auto-completion of the following:
variableName.abc
variableName->abc
typeName::abc
And really, anything else is completely useless.
Configurability. I need to specify (easily) where the source files are, and hence where the script gets its auto-completion information from. In fact, I've got a Makefile in my directory which specifies the required include paths. Eclipse can interpret the information found therein, why not a Vim script as well?
Up-to-dateness. As soon as I change something in my file, I want the auto-completion to reflect this. I do not want to manually trigger ctags (or something comparable). Also, changes should be incremental, i.e. when I've changed just one file it's completely unacceptable for ctags to re-parse the whole directory tree (which may be huge).
Did I forget anything? Feel free to update.
I'm comfortable with quite a lot of configuration and/or tinkering but I don't want to program a solution from scratch, and I'm not good at debugging Vim scripts.
A final note, I'd really like something similar for Java and C# but I guess that's too much to hope for: ctags only parses code files and both Java and C# have huge, precompiled frameworks that would need to be indexed. Unfortunately, developing .NET without an IDE is even more of a PITA than C++.
Try YouCompleteMe. It uses Clang through the libclang interface, offering semantic C/C++/Objective-C completion. It's much like clang_complete, but substantially faster and with fuzzy-matching.
In addition to the above, YCM also provides semantic completion for C#, Python, Go, TypeScript etc. It also provides non-semantic, identifier-based completion for languages for which it doesn't have semantic support.
There’s also clang_complete which uses the clang compiler to provide code completion for C++ projects. There’s another question with troubleshooting hints for this plugin.
The plugin seems to work fairly well as long as the project compiles, but is prohibitively slow for large projects (since it attempts a full compilation to generate the tags list).
as per requested, here is the comment I gave earlier:
have a look at this:
Vim integration to MonoDevelop
for .net stuff at least..
OmniCompletion
this link should help you if you want to use monodevelop on a MacOSX
Good luck and happy coding.
I've just found the project Eclim linked in another question. This looks quite promising, at least for Java integration.
I'm a bit late to the party but autocomplpop might be helpful.
is what you are looking for something like intellisense?
insevim seems to address the issue.
link to screenshots here
Did someone mention code_complete?
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1764
But you did not like ctags, so this is probably not what you are looking for...