In c++, not waiting doesn't mean running in the background? - c++

In my c++ program, I try to run programs in the background by simply not waiting for them.
However in Linux, if I start vi in the background like this: vi &, then vi doesn't show up. In my program, vi will still pop up even if I don't wait for it to terminate.
So does that mean that I'm not really running it in the background? How can this be fixed?
Also, I noticed that in Linux if I type fg to bring vi into the foreground, then vi will appear. How can I do this in c++?

What's going on here is rather complicated (for more information than you probably require, see glibc's manual section on job control) but the short version is: Only the foreground process group can access the terminal. Any other process gets automatically ^Zed by the kernel if it tries to access the terminal.
When you fork a process from C, if the parent is in the foreground process group, the child is also considered to be in the foreground process group unless either the parent or the child changes that. When you do vi &, the shell (which is just another C program, remember) takes vi out of the foreground process group. But you're not doing that, so vi runs immediately.
Now, you want to fork a process from your C program and have it be treated the same as if it had been run with & from the shell. You can only do part of that. You can put it into a non-foreground process group -- see the glibc manual for instructions; as I said, it's complicated -- but you can't add it to the list of process groups that the shell's job control commands know about. That list is state internal to the shell, there's no way to get at it from another process.

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How to run multiple shell command at the same time in linux

I am trying to run multiple command in ubuntu using c++ code at the same time.
I used system() call to run multiple command but the problem with system() call is it invoke only one command at a time and rest commands are in waiting.
below I wrote my sample code, may this help you to get what I am trying to do.
major thing is I want to run all these command at a time not one by one. Please help me.
Thanks in advance.
main()
{
string command[3];
command[0]= "ls -l";
command[1]="ls";
command[2]="cat main.cpp";
for(int i=0;i<3;i++){
system(command[i].c_str());
}
}
You should read Advanced Linux Programming (a bit old, but freely available). You probably want (in the traditional way, like most shells do):
perhaps catch SIGCHLD (set the signal handler before fork, see signal(7) & signal-safety(7)...)
call fork(2) to create a new process. Be sure to check all three cases (failure with a negative returned pid_t, child with a 0 pid_t, parent with a positive pid_t). If you want to communicate with that process, use pipe(2) (read about pipe(7)...) before the fork.
in the child process, close some useless file descriptors, then run some exec function (or the underlying execve(2)) to run the needed program (e.g. /bin/ls)
call (in the parent, perhaps after having got a SIGCHLD) wait(2) or waitpid(2) or related functions.
This is very usual. Several chapters of Advanced Linux Programming are explaining it better.
There is no need to use threads in your case.
However, notice that the role of ls and cat could be accomplished with various system calls (listed in syscalls(2)...), notably read(2) & stat(2). You might not even need to run other processes. See also opendir(3) & readdir(3)
Perhaps (notably if you communicate with several processes thru several pipe(7)-s) you might want to have some event loop using poll(2) (or the older select(2)). Some libraries provide an event loop (notably all GUI widget libraries).
You have a few options (as always):
Use threads (C++ standard library implementation is good) to spawn multiple threads which each perform a system call then terminate. join on the thread list to wait for them all to terminate.
Use the *NIX fork command to spawn a new process, then within each child process use exec to execute the desired command (see here for an example of "getting the right string to the right child"). Parent process can use waitpid to determine when all children have finished running, in order to move on with the program.
Append "&" to each of your commands, which'll tell the shell to run each one in the background (specifically, system will start the process in the background then return, without waiting for the result). Not tried this, don't know if it'll work. You can't then wait for the call to terminate though (thanks PSkocik).
Just pointing out - if you run those 3 specific commands at the same time, you're unlikely to be able to read the output as they'll all print text to the terminal at the same time.
If you do require reading the output from within the program (though not mentioned in your question), this is relevant (although it doesn't use system).

C++ stop other programs by PID on brute force quit from client

I have an .exe Program, which triggers some other files during execution.
So at a given point, the tree might become like:
Main program
-Program 1
-Program 2
-Program 3
Of all these programs I have their PID, so I am able to close them successfully. However, when a user 'brute forces the program' (read close the program manually), I am unable to close these child programs. Is there an option to trigger the closing of child-programs before the main-program itself will actually exit. (Something is for example also possible in an html-page to remind the user e.g. or they really want to leave te page).
Because, when this situation occurs, on the next run the main-program will try to start up these child-programs again, however they are already running. (And the settings of the main-program are time dependent and have to be transferred to the other child-programs on start-up to work properly)
Ideally, I would like to have a cross-platform solution, since I have to make the app available for Windows, Linux and MacOS.
Thanks for your answers.
This is an OS feature and each OS offers it in its own way. Keeping track of the PIDs does not work, for once for the reason you mention (your parent process may itself crash) and second because the child process may spawn grand-children processes of its own that needs to be tracked, and then grand-grand-children and so on.
On Windows this is handled by NT Job Objects by asking for the JOB_OBJECT_LIMIT_KILL_ON_JOB_CLOSE:
Causes all processes associated with the job to terminate when the last handle to the job is closed.
The way to use it is to create the job object in the parent process and make the handle non-inheritable. Then any child process will become part of the job, but only one handle exisst (the one owned by the parent). If the parent crashes then the handle is reclaimed by the OS and this will terminate the NT job object, killing all child processes as well as any grand-child or grand-grand-child process.
On Linux (and OS X) the same functionality is achieved with process groups.
I am not aware of any cross-platform library that would abstract this into a coherent uniform API.

Qt check if external process crashes

I'm building a failsafe application for professional video. The Qt application checks the 4 corners of the 2nd screen and if they are a certain RGB value (I use a special background) the Qt program knows it crashed so it sends a signal to the videomixer to fade to the other input.
Now I also want to add a check to see if the video program didn't crash (it can be the video program doesn't respond but still shows an output so I can't see the desktop on the 2nd screen). I know I can use Qprocess to start an external process. It's not that easy to hook it up to a process that already runs.
Now the question: how can I check if the program crashed (so "not responding") and see this as quick as possible so I can fade to the other video input. And what happens when my Qt program crashes, will it also exit the child process?
Thanks!
Using QProcess creates an attached process, so unfortunately it will be killed when your process dies. When you create a detached process using the static method QProcess::startDetached, you don't get the monitoring functionality.
You need to write a little platform-specific monitoring class that can launch a detached process and inform you of changes in its status. You need to use the native APIs in implementing that. QProcess's sources can be a good inspiration for where to start.
#KubaOber is partially correct in his statement. If you start and detach a process indeed you loose the Qt way of communicating with it and monitory what it does. However you OS offers plenty solutions to oversee what happens with it.
On Linux you can use:
pgrep to check if the process is running or not (execute the command as a child process and see if it returns 0 (process is running) or 1 (process is no longer running)
you can use proc filesystem to see when a process terminates (see here) and then use $? or a variable (as in described in the link) to check its exit status
kill allows you a great amount of control possibilities along with pipes
You should note however that especially on Windows there are plenty of programs that do not follow the Unix convention for exit codes (0 = exited normally, anything else - error has occurred). Also a crash is just an error state that the process ended up with. The exit code tells you that an error has occurred but in terms of a crash you will probably not be able to make the difference just by looking at it.

GenerateConsoleCtrlEvent() won't due for termination signaling to process run by cmd.exe

When one is interactively using cmd.exe to run all sort of windows CLI application, one can easily stop them by pressing CTRL+C or CTRL+BREAK . this is implemented by signaling the process as can be read here. As for cmd.exe itself, it does not terminate in these conditions as can be explained in a comment of this question.
Now, consider the following scenario. My application open a cmd.exe using CreateProcess(), and the user has started another application b.exe through it. Say that my application want to fold before b.exe has ended , and it doesn't really care about the graceful termination of it. optimally, I'd like to mimic the user pressing CTRL+C and then send exit to the cmd.exe (let's say I can do it IO-wise). the windows api offers GenerateConsoleCtrlEvent() for that (almost) exact purpose, but it can be ignored by the process (cmd.exe in that case) and in particular , it won't forward the signal to b.exe.

is it is possible to run a background process if the window is closed?

I am creating an application in C++ gtk and if I press a button a threading process will start and I need to run the application if the window is closed also is it possible?
Under a Unix system (and since Windows 10), you create another process using the fork() function. To run a program you then use the execve() or similar.
However, that means you need to communicate with that other process using a pipe (see pipe() or pipe2()) or via the network.
Using a thread instead of a process allows you to run in the same memory & process and you can very easily shared everything between multiple threads.
As far as I know, the gtk loop just returns once the user selects the "Close Window" or similar exit function. It would be up for your main() function to make sure that it waits for all the threads to be done before exiting. For threads, this is usually done with a "join()". It will depend on the library you use to run your background process.
Note that in most cases people expect processes to exit whenever they ask the process to exit. Showing a window saying that your process is still running in the background (is busy) is a good idea for a process which runs a GUI. Especially, if you run your process from the console, it would not exit immediately after you closed the window, so letting the user know what's happening is important otherwise they are likely to hit Ctrl-C and kill the whole thing.
If you'd like the main to return but be able to keep the background threads running, it's a tad bit more complicated, but it uses both of the solutions I just mentioned:
create a pipe()
fork() (but no execve())
from within the forked app. (child) open Gtk window, background thread, etc.
when last Gtk window is closed, send message over pipe
parent process receives message and quits immediately
child process still attempts a "join()" to wait for the background thread
This way, the background process with threads created in (3) can continue to run (your function still needs to wait for all the threads to end with the "join()" call), however, the use has a sense of "the app. is done" since it returns to the next line on the prompt in your console even though a background process is still running.
The pipe() and wait on a message on the pipe() is not required if you don't mind having your application always running in the background.
Note: that usage of fork() is most often seen when creating processes that want to run in the background (i.e. services, often called servers under Unix). That's how they get their PPID set to 1.
On Windows, you need to create a Windows/Linux/Mac Service or run the process in background. On Linux you need to create a daemon service or run the process in the background. Services allow to automatically start the process on boot.