This is not a question about writing a web-app Vs a desktop app. It's a question about allowing a bespoke application to run in a browser though use of a custom plugin, effectively using the browser just as your render-window.
QuakeLive does this - it's a C++ application with some extra code to run through a browser. Unity3D and Torque game engines also provide deployment options to do the same thing.
Personally, I'm a bit dubious about the usefulness of such a system. But I'd welcome other opinions on the reasons why this might or might not be a good idea.
Not sure if there's a proper term for this, please edit my tags if there is!
It depends on the application. My background is in medical imaging, but what I have to say would apply to many information system clients:
Pros:
it gets easier to build REST-based integrations between applications. This type of integrations can be used by admins to build integrated portals. (So case ID's from one application can be used to launch another with the right context etc).
ideally, users can install your application themselves, on-demand (depends on context if this is really possible)
Deployment of new versions gets easier. Usually the hosting technology has deployment built-in. In client server environments, this can save a lot of work for the IT department.
You can have a single start URL for PC's and thin web clients (like phones). This makes it easy for users to find your application.
You can centralize configuration for clients. For standalone clients, you could of course centralize configuration somehow, but if you app is web based, you always know for sure there is a server, so you can always use it.
you can offload work that's ineficcient to do locally to the server. (reduce # of roundtrips between client/server).
Cons:
Each browser vendor has its own model of wrapping the native code. There are not too many, but it's definetly extra work.
Your app has to "play nice" with the hosting application. Like when the user closes the browser window, the browser may have prescribed when and how you can ask the user to save.
updates to browsers can break your plugin.
system admins may have restricted installation of plugins, disallowing users to install your application on demand (this happens a lot for activex).
your users may not like that extra code is injected into the browser (there is a lot of malware around that does this)
you don't have the opportunity to update prerequisites before installation
I don't believe really that it's just wrapping existing code in a plugin framework.
Your application won't work anymore when the server is down...
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We are currently on Kentico EMS V.7 but when our site(s) was created there was not any mobile device layouts setup. an out entire site is build around ASPX+Portal templates so we don't have the edit layout option on our pages. What would you recommend an origination like ours do in this case? Is there an import or migration tool that can be used to move the pages into a responsive design template (are these available out of the box or do they all need to be built?)
has anyone else come against this challenge with their site when trying to a mobile accessible site, if so what approach did you take to move your site(s) over?
I know Stackoverflow doesn't like to answer broad questions, but I'll save you some trouble and hopefully at least point you in the right direction. I use to be in your shoes and I remember how frustrating it was trying to find resources to learn all of this.
You've got some options, but unfortunately none of them are magic bullets. All of these options involve design and development time. If you haven't already done the research to consider if optimizing your site for mobile users is a good business decision, then I would suggest starting there first.
Mobile Device Detection
Kentico offers device layouts that allow you to change the layout of your site depending on which device a user is browsing your site with. The technique it uses is called device detection, which relies on reading the incoming user agent string of the user's http request on your server and using that information to determine what to send back to the user's browser.
This process happens on the server side of your application and also relies on comparing the user agent string against a list of known user agent strings. Kentico in particular uses the 51degrees library to accomplish this. This has the drawback of not always having the most up-to-date user agent strings, so new devices won't be included in your list unless you keep it updated.
A big problem with this approach is that you wind up maintaining multiple sites and/or layouts. If you uses Kentico's mobile device detection, then any time you need to make changes to a page template you will also have to change each of the different layouts for that template.
You don't have to utilize Kentico's device layouts functionality to do mobile device detection. You could just redirect users to a different site entirely. In which case you can still very easily run into the problem of redundant maintenance.
Yes, there are ways of mitigating these issues, but most web devs agree that responsive design is usually the way to go if you want to cater to mobile users.
Responsive Design
This is a client-side design paradigm that relies on CSS media queries. I'm not going to explain how it works since googling "responsive design" will net you plenty of research material. The short version is your user's browser handles the adjustment of the layout by interpreting the CSS of your site. This means you maintain one CSS file for one site and the client handles the adjustments for you.
Now the down side to this is that it takes a takes a talented web designer to do it properly. There are many responsive frameworks out there that can help you out with this, but their appearance is pretty generic and will likely still require customization to fit your particular brand requirements. Some more popular ones are bootstrap, semantic-ui, and foundation.
I recently helped convert a large website in Kentico with a static design into a responsive design by rebuilding all of the page templates using Bootstrap and merging their stylesheets together so that the desktop version still looked the same and the mobile versions had a consistent appearance with the desktop version. This process took about two months and required a lot of UX and content strategy in addition to visual design and coding skills to accomplish correctly. It's not the hardest job in the world, but requires quite a bit of skill and time to do.
In my humble opinion there is no tool which will make (magically) your site responsive. AFAIK the only way is to redesign your site manually (new CSSs - maybe any UI framework, JS etc...)
Maybe you can still use out of the box features like device profiles and mobile pages. (But I am not sure how it works and if it is supported while using ASPX + Portal templates development models).
I've designed a desktop app using PyQt GUI toolkit and now I need to embed this app on my Django website. Do I need to clone it using django's own logic or is there a way to get it up on website using some interface. Coz I need this to work on my website same way it works as desktop. Do I need to find out packages in django to remake it over the web or is there way to simplify the task?
Please help.
I'm not aware of any libraries to port a PyQT desktop app to a django webapp. Django certainly does nothing to enable this one way or another. I think, you'll find that you have to rewrite it for the web. Django is a great framework and depending on the complexity of your app, it might not be too difficult. If you haven't done much with web development, there is a lot to learn!
If it seemed like common sense to you that you should be able to run a desktop app as a webapp, consider this:
Almost all web communication that you likely encounter is done via HTTP. HTTP is a protocol for passing data between servers and clients (often, browsers). What this means is that any communication that takes place must be resolved into discrete chunks. Consider an example flow:
You go to google in your browser.
Your browser then hits a DNS server (or cache) that resolves the name google.com to some IP address.
Cool, now your browser makes a request to that IP address and says "get me some stuff".
Google decides to send you back a minimal amount of HTML and lots of minified JavaScript in the page.
Your browser realizes that there are some image links in the HTML and so it makes additional requests to google to get each of the images so that it can display them.
Now all the content is loaded on your browser so it starts to execute the JavaScript code, and that code needs some more data from google so it starts sending requests to google too.
This is just a small example of how fundamentally different a web application operates than how a desktop application does. On a desktop app you have the added convenience that any operation doesn't need to be "packaged up" and sent, then have an action taken, etc (unless you're using a messaging architecture, but that's relatively uncommon outside of enterprise apps).
What is difference between a Desktop application and a Web development application? What is Testing Strategy for a web site/web application?
I will briefly share some of my experiences, as they may help establish a foundation for you.
The main differences that I have encountered are obviously the usage of markup languages (HTML/HTML5/XML, etc), AJAX, jQuery, and javascript (well, scripting in general). Tools like .NET framework amongst others also exist. You can look those up to get a full definition of what they are and how they work together, but they introduce a new way of problem solving in terms of building small bridges to reach the end result.
As in any application, keep in mind the user-end side of the application. Millions of people will have access to it at exactly the same time. Security is paramount with web apps. Ensure you have strong security measures tied into your page.
Aesthetics will take more precedence than with desk applications (depending on what they are). Web applications are a visual experience. You want to make sure that when you design it, fields are easily identifiable, the app is easy navigable, and easy to read.
For testing, simply save your code with the right extension and run it from wherever you saved it. Most current Op Systems know what kind of web code the file is written in and will open it in a browser. Say if you wrote "myPage.html" and saved it to your desktop, you will see an HTML icon that says "myPage". If you need to make changes, edit your code, re-save it, then simply refresh your web browser.
I know this is a very very general answer but I'm attempting to brush upon everything that I've experienced over the summer. Hopefully this is helpful, or atleast brings some considerations to mind when designing your web app. Good luck!
I am in process of building a web application + Mobile application (Android and iPhone to begin with). I know the functionality and can write functional specification. I haven't decided whether I should be build native apps or a mobile web app.
Since I will have a reusable functionality (used by web app as well as mobile apps), I should exposed core functionality as web services and consume it from views (Mobile, Web UI etc.)
My goal is to build faster. Application/platform should scale up well in future. I am low on budget, so am looking for open source or low-licensing fee stack (Java, LAMP, open source etc.).
I need suggestions on technology stack. Also if you have similar experience, let me know your experience.
Thanks a bunch.
I work on similar solution, ie. web-app + API + mobile apps and use:
Server side: Python + Django + Piston (for making REST API).
Client side: Native iPhone app (Android in the future)
I'm satisfied with my choice. Django allows to develop fast. Python is very expressive and quite fast (in terms of dynamic language). Piston lets you create REST API easily. All of these are free, of course.
Considering iPhone - a native app was a requirement, so I wasn't thinking about building mobile web apps.
It very much depends on the type of application you are talking about. From my company's experience and from listening to others, the choice whether to use native app or web app or hybrid app depends very much on the functionality you need to include.
One thing is logic, another is presentation.
Logic can usually reside on the server, but in case you need to work offline as well then at least some of this has to be done on the client. Then even if it is offline - you should decide if it is web app or native logic, but developing a web-browser complex offline logic which will be cross-platform might be more difficult sometimes than writing it twice natively. Really... So if offline is needed, I'd lean to native logic anyway. Otherwise you might think about appcelerator, but you will have big learning curve if you are used to web development. They say they are html + javascript but only about syntax - you have to learn the whole stack anyway.
Presentation - if you require simple list display with not a lot of graphical effects, not a lot of many pictures to browse through with simple few buttons, tabs, web is good to go - jquerymobile, phonegap are your friends there - phonegap especially if you need access to phone functions like camera or contacts. But if you need at least some level of smoothness, good user experience and something of a "wow" effect for the user there is no other way than a pure native applications - android and ios developed by joined multi-platform team (share concepts are more important than shared code IMHO).
For the backend - this might be pretty much everything, also depending on the functionality - how much other systems it should integrate with, how many users, what is the hardware infrastructure required, whether some cloud approach (google appengine, amazon) are considered etc. etc.
I work at a company with a large SAP investment, and we also have dozens of large .Net systems (mostly internally for engineering systems), and Java platforms (mostly for external web applications). As such, we have large development shops on ABAP, C#, and Java EE.
We have decent standards for which platform to use in which domain, but we don't have a lot of clarity around when to use web UIs and when to use desktop UIs.
I've seen some excellent research on this topic in the past (like this), but I'd like something a little more structured
I'd like to build a decision tree based on best practices to help with this question.
Some of the criteria I've seen in the past include:
Is the application targeted to users
with different OS configurations?
Does the application require OS-type
functionality for sorting and editing
data? (I know that AJAX /
asynchronous JS has made possible
much richer desktop-like
functionality to web applications,
but some would argue the desktop is
still king in this area)
Will a web application be able to
provide the availability,
responsiveness, clarity, and utility
that can be delivered with a desktop
application?
I think we are seeing the separation between Web and desktop applications softened quite a bit. Rich internet applications (with Flex, Silverlight, Ajax) started this trend, and WPF with XBAP is taking the user experience of browser-based applications to another level.
It is becoming a bit more involved to have this argument, because there are now more flavors in the spectrum between Web and desktop apps.
Some more questions to ask:
What is the primary objective of the app - data manipulation, or data viewing?
What is the number of data points/records that need to be viewed/edited together on one screen?
What is the organization's IT infrastructure look like? Will they be able to accomodate new deployment models?
Will users work with a central database from remote locations?
Does the organization have a VPN infrastructure of off-site users, and how do users authenticate?
Are there existing applications that the same user group is working with, and how are these applications deployed?
Does the application need offline capabilities?
Given that they are so different, what is the skill set of the development team for web and desktop APIs?