I know that pointers store the address of the value that they point to, but if you display the value of a pointer directly to the screen, you get a hexadecimal number. If the number is exactly what the pointer stores, then when saying
pA = pB; //both are pointers
you're copying the address. Then wouldn't there be a bigger overhead to using pointers when working with very small items like ints and bools?
A pointer is essentially just a number. It stores the address in RAM where the data is. The pointer itself is pretty small (probably the same size as an int on 32 bit architectures, long on 64 bit).
You are correct though that an int * would not save any space when working with ints. But that is not the point (no pun intended). Pointers are there so you can have references to things, not just use the things themselves.
Memory addresses.
That is the locations in memory where other stuff is.
Pointers are generally the word size of the processor, so they can generally be moved around in a single instruction cycle. In short, they are fast.
As others have said, a pointer stores a memory address which is "just a number' but that is an abstraction. Depending on processor architecture it may be more than one number, for instance a base and offset that must be added to dereference the pointer. In this case the overhead is slightly higher than if the address is a single number.
Yes, there is overhead in accessing an int or a bool via a pointer vs. directly, where the processor can put the variable in a register. Pointers are usually used where the value of the indirection outweighs any overhead, i.e. traversing an array.
I've been referring to time overhead. Not sure if OP was more concerned space or time overhead.
The number refers to its address in memory. The size of a pointer is typically the native size of the computer's architecture so there is no additional overhead compared to any other primitive type.
On some architectures there is an additional overhead of pointers to characters because the architecture only supports addressing words (32- or 64-bit values). A pointer to a character is therefore stored as a word address and an offset of the character within that word. De-referencing the pointer involves fetching the word and then shifting and masking it's value to extract the character.
Let me start from the basics. First of all, you will have to know what variable are and how they are used.
Variables are basically memory locations(usually containing some values) and we use some identifier(i.e., variable names) to refer to that memory location and use the value present at that location.
For understanding it better, suppose we want the information from memory cells present at some location relative to the current variable. Can we use the identifier to extract information from nearby cells?
No. Because the identifier(variable name) will only give the value contained in that particular cell.
But, If somehow we can get the memory address at which this variable is present then we can easily move to nearby locations and use their information as well(at runtime).
This is where pointers come into play. They are used to store the location of that variable so that we can use the additional address information whenever required.
Syntax: To store the address of a variable we can simply use & (address-of) operator.
foo = &bar
Here foo stores the address of variable bar.
Now, what if we want to know the value present at that address?
For that, we can simply use the * (dereference) operator.
value = *foo
Now that we have to store the address of a variable, we'll be needing the memory the same way as we need in case of a variable. This means pointers are also stored in the memory the same way as other variables, so just like in case of variables, we can also store the address of a pointer into yet another pointer.
An address in memory. Points to somewhere! :-)
Yes, you're right, both in terms of speed and memory.
Pointers almost always take up more bytes than your standard int and, especially, bool and char data types. On modern machines pointers typically are 8 bytes while char is almost always just 1 byte.
In this example, accessing the the char and bool from Foo requires more machine instructions than accessing from Bar:
struct Foo
{
char * c; // single character
bool * b; // single bool
};
struct Bar
{
char c;
bool b;
};
... And if we decide to make some arrays, then the size of the arrays of Foo would be 8 times larger - and the code is more spread-apart so this means you'll end up having a lot more cache misses.
#include <vector>
int main()
{
int size = 1000000;
std::vector<Foo> foo(size);
std::vector<Bar> bar(size);
return 0;
}
As dmckee pointed out, a single copy of a one-byte bool and a single copy of a pointer are just as fast:
bool num1, num2,* p1, * p2;
num1 = num2; // this takes one clock cycle
p1 = p2; // this takes another
As dmckee said, this is true when you're using a 64-bit architecture.
However, copying of arrays of ints, bools and chars can be much faster, because we can squeeze multiples of them onto each register:
#include <iostream>
int main ()
{
const int n_elements = 100000 * sizeof(int64_t);
bool A[n_elements];
bool B[n_elements];
int64_t * A_fast = (int64_t *) A;
int64_t * B_fast = (int64_t *) B;
const int n_quick_elements = n_elements / sizeof(int64_t);
for (int i = 0; i < 10000; ++i)
for (int j = 0; j < n_quick_elements; ++j)
A_fast[j] = B_fast[j];
return 0;
}
The STL containers and other good libraries do this sort of thing for us, using type_traits (is_trivially_copyable) and std::memcopy. Using pointers under the false guise that they're always just as fast can prevent those libraries from optimising.
Conclusion: It may seem obvious with these examples, but only use pointers/references on basic data types when you need to take/give access to the original object.
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I am writing in c++ for the Nintendo DS (With 4MB of RAM). I have a button class that stores data like the x,y location and length. Which of the following would take less memory?
.
Method 1, class variables length, x, y, and halfPoint
Button::Button(int setX, int setY, int setLength)
{
x = setX;
y = setY;
length = setLength;
halfPoint = length/2;
}
//access variable with buttonName.halfPoint
Method 2, class variables length, x and y
Button::Button(int setX, int setY, int length)
{
x = setX;
y = setY;
length = setLength;
}
int Button::getHalfPoint()
{
return length/2;
}
//access variable with buttonName.getHalfPoint()
Any help is appreciated. (And in the real code I calculate a location much more complex than the half point)
The getHalfPoint() method will take up less room if there are a lot of Buttons. Why? Because member functions are actually just implemented by the compiler as regular functions with an implied first argument of a pointer to the object. So your function is rewritten by the compiler as:
int getHalfPoint(Button* this)
{
return this->length/2;
}
(It is a bit more complicated, because of name mangling, but this will do for an explanation.)
You should carefully consider the extra amount of computation that will have to be done to avoid storing 4 extra bytes, however. And as Cameron mentions, the compiler might add extra space to the object anyway, depending upon the architecture (I think that is likely to happen with RISC architectures).
Well, that depends!
The method code exists exactly once in memory, but a member variable exists once for each object instance.
So you'll have to count the number of instances you create (multiplied by the sizeof the variable), and compare that to the size of the compiled method (using a tool like e.g. objdump).
You'll also want to compare the size of your Button with and without the extra variable, because it's entirely possible that the compiler pads it to the same length anyway.
I suggest you declare the getHalfPoint method inside your class. This will make the compiler inline the code.
There is a possibility that the code in the function is one assembly instruction, and depending on your platform, take the size of 4 bytes or less. In this case, there is probably no benefit to have a variable represent the half of another variable. Research "right shifting". Also, to take full advantage, make the variable unsigned int. (Right shifting a signed integer is not defined.)
The inline capability means that the content of the function will be pasted wherever there is a call to the function. This reduces the overhead of a function call (such as the branch instruction, pushing and popping arguments). The reduction of a branch instruction may even speed up the program because there is no flushing of the instruction cache or pipeline.
I am an expert C# programmer, but I am very new to C++. I get the basic idea of pointers just fine, but I was playing around. You can get the actual integer value of a pointer by casting it as an int:
int i = 5;
int* iptr = &i;
int ptrValue = (int)iptr;
Which makes sense; it's a memory address. But I can move to the next pointer, and cast it as an int:
int i = 5;
int* iptr = &i;
int ptrValue = (int)iptr;
int* jptr = (int*)((int)iptr + 1);
int j = (int)*iptr;
and I get a seemingly random number (although this is not a good PSRG). What is this number? Is it another number used by the same process? Is it possibly from a different process? Is this bad practice, or disallowed? And if not, is there a use for this? It's kind of cool.
What is this number? Is it another number used by the same process? Is it possibly from a different process?
You cannot generally cast pointers to integers and back and expect them to be dereferencable. Integers are numbers. Pointers are pointers. They are totally different abstractions and are not compatible.
If integers are not large enough to be able to store the internal representation of pointers (which is likely the case; integers are usually 32 bits long and pointers are usually 64 bits long), or if you modify the integer before casting it back to a pointer, your program exhibits undefined behaviour and as such anything can happen.
See C++: Is it safe to cast pointer to int and later back to pointer again?
Is this bad practice, or disallowed?
Disallowed? Nah.
Bad practice? Terrible practice.
You move beyond i pointer by 4 or 8 bytes and print out the number, which might be another number stored in your program space. The value is unknown and this is Undefined Behavior. Also there is a good chance that you might get an error (that means your program can blow up) [Ever heard of SIGSEGV? The Segmentation violation problem]
You are discovering that random places in memory contain "unknown" data. Not only that, but you may find yourself pointing to memory that your process does not have "rights" to so that even the act of reading the contents of an address can cause a segmentation fault.
In general is you allocate some memory to a pointer (for example with malloc) you may take a look at these locations (which may have random data "from the last time" in them) and modify them. But data that does not belong explicitly to a pointer's block of memory can behave all kings of undefined behavior.
Incidentally if you want to look at the "next" location just to
NextValue = *(iptr + 1);
Don't do any casting - pointer arithmetic knows (in your case) exactly what the above means : " the contents of the next I refer location".
int i = 5;
int* iptr = &i;
int ptrValue = (int)iptr;
int* jptr = (int*)((int)iptr + 1);
int j = (int)*iptr;
You can cast int to pointer and back again, and it will give you same value
Is it possibly from a different process? no it's not, and you can't access memory of other process except using readProcessMemmory and writeProcessMemory under win32 api.
You get other number because you add 1 to the pointer, try to subtract 1 and you will same value.
When you define an integer by
int i = 5;
it means you allocate a space in your thread stack, and initialize it as 5. Then you get a pointer to this memory, which is actually a position in you current thread stack
When you increase your pointer by 1, it means you point to the next location in your thread stack, and you parse it again as an integer,
int* jptr = (int*)((int)iptr + 1);
int j = (int)*jptr;
Then you will get an integer from you thread stack which is close to where you defined your int i.
Of course this is not suggested to do, unless you want to become an hacker and want to exploit stack overflow (here it means what it is, not the site name, ha!)
Using a pointer to point to a random address is very dangerous. You must not point to an address unless you know what you're doing. You could overwrite its content or you may try to modify a constant in read-only memory which leads to an undefined behaviour...
This for example when you want to retrieve the elements of an array. But cannot cast a pointer to integer. You just point to the start of the array and increase your pointer by 1 to get the next element.
int arr[5] = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5};
int *p = arr;
printf("%d", *p); // this will print 1
p++; // pointer arithmetics
printf("%d", *p); // this will print 2
It's not "random". It just means that there are some data on the next address
Reading a 32-bit word from an address A will copy the 4 bytes at [A], [A+1], [A+2], [A+3] into a register. But if you dereference an int at [A+1] then the CPU will load the bytes from [A+1] to [A+4]. Since the value of [A+4] is unknown it may make you think that the number is "random"
Anyway this is EXTREMELY dangerous 💀 since
the pointer is misaligned. You may see the program runs fine because x86 allows for unaligned accesses (with some performance penalty). But most other architectures prohibit unaligned operations and your program will just end in segmentation fault. For more information read Purpose of memory alignment, Data Alignment: Reason for restriction on memory address being multiple of data type size
you may not be allowed to touch the next byte as it may be outside of your address space, is write-only, is used for another variable and you changed its value, or whatever other reasons. You'll also get a segfault in that case
the next byte may not be initialized and reading it will crash your application on some architectures
That's why the C and C++ standard state that reading memory outside an array invokes undefined behavior. See
How dangerous is it to access an array out of bounds?
Access array beyond the limit in C and C++
Is accessing a global array outside its bound undefined behavior?
If there is for example a class that requires a pointer and a bool. For simplicity an int pointer will be used in examples, but the pointer type is irrelevant as long as it points to something whose size() is more than 1 .
Defining the class with { bool , int *} data members will result in the class having a size that is double the size of the pointer and a lot of wasted space
If the pointer does not point to a char (or other data of size(1)), then presumably the low bit will always be zero. The class could defined with {int *} or for convenience: union { int *, uintptr_t }
The bool is implemented by setting/clearing the low bit of the pointer as per the logical bool value and clearing the bit when you need to use the pointer.
The defined way:
struct myData
{
int * ptr;
bool flag;
};
myData x;
// initialize
x.ptr = new int;
x.flag = false;
// set flag true
x.flag = true;
// set flag false
x.flag = false;
// use ptr
*(x.ptr)=7;
// change ptr
x = y; // y is another int *
And the proposed way:
union tiny
{
int * ptr;
uintptr_t flag;
};
tiny x;
// initialize
x.ptr = new int;
// set flag true
x.flag |= 1;
// set flag false
x.flag &= ~1;
// use ptr
tiny clean=x; // note that clean will likely be optimized out
clean.flag &= ~1; // back to original value as assigned to ptr
*(clean.ptr)=7;
// change ptr
bool flag=x.flag;
x.ptr = y; // y is another int *
x.flag |= flag;
This seems to be undefined behavior, but how portable is this?
As long as you restore the pointer's low-order bit before trying to use it as a pointer, it's likely to be "reasonably" portable, as long as your system, your C++ implementation, and your code meet certain assumptions.
I can't necessarily give you a complete list of assumptions, but off the top of my head:
It assumes you're not pointing to anything whose size is 1 byte. This excludes char, unsigned char, signed char, int8_t, and uint8_t. (And that assumes CHAR_BIT == 8; on exotic systems with, say, 16-bit or 32-bit bytes, other types might be excluded.)
It assumes objects whose size is at least 2 bytes are always aligned at an even address. Note that x86 doesn't require this; you can access a 4-byte int at an odd address, but it will be slightly slower. But compilers typically arrange for objects to be stored at even addresses. Other architectures may have different requirements.
It assumes a pointer to an even address has its low-order bit set to 0.
For that last assumption, I actually have a concrete counterexample. On Cray vector systems (J90, T90, and SV1 are the ones I've used myself) a machine address points to a 64-bit word, but the C compiler under Unicos sets CHAR_BIT == 8. Byte pointers are implemented in software, with the 3-bit byte offset within a word stored in the otherwise unused high-order 3 bits of the 64-bit pointer. So a pointer to an 8-byte aligned object could have easily its low-order bit set to 1.
There have been Lisp implementations (example) that use the low-order 2 bits of pointers to store a type tag. I vaguely recall this causing serious problems during porting.
Bottom line: You can probably get away with it for most systems. Future architectures are largely unpredictable, and I can easily imagine your scheme breaking on the next Big New Thing.
Some things to consider:
Can you store the boolean values in a bit vector outside your class? (Maintaining the association between your pointer and the corresponding bit in the bit vector is left as an exercise).
Consider adding code to all pointer operations that fails with an error message if it ever sees a pointer with its low-order bit set to 1. Use #ifdef to remove the checking code in your production version. If you start running into problems on some platform, build a version of your code with the checks enabled and see what happens.
I suspect that, as your application grows (they seldom shrink), you'll want to store more than just a bool along with your pointer. If that happens, the space issue goes away, because you're already using that extra space anyway.
In "theory": it's undefined behavior as far as I know.
In "reality": it'll work on everyday x86/x64 machines, and probably ARM too?
I can't really make a statement beyond that.
It's very portable, and furthermore, you can assert when you accept the raw pointer to make sure it meets the alignment requirement. This will insure against the unfathomable future compiler that somehow messes you up.
Only reasons not to do it are the readability cost and general maintenance associated with "hacky" stuff like that. I'd shy away from it unless there's a clear gain to be made. But it is sometimes totally worth it.
Conform to those rules and it should be very portable.
I know this is a rather noobish question, but no amount of googling or permutations of code seem to work.
I have a structure which is defined like this.
typedef struct
{
int rate;
int duration;
} DummyStructure;
Now, i try to use code similar to this.
//
DummyStructure* structure;
DummyStructure* structure2;
long int point;
//
structure = (DummyStructure*)malloc(sizeof(DummyStructure));
structure->rate = 19;
structure->duration = 92;
point = (long int)&structure;
// now i'd like to set structure2 to the same memory location as 1.
// point is the 8-byte int location (i assume?) of structure.
// so naturally i'd assume that by casting as a DummyStructure pointer
// that long int would act as a pointer to that 1.
// It doesn't.
structure2 = (DummyStructure*)point;
I stress that i've tried every permutation of ** and * that is possible. I just don't get it. Either it doesn't compile, or it does, and when it does i end up with seemingly random numbers for the fields contained in structure2. I assume that somehow i'm winding up with an incorrect memory location, but how else can you get it except from using the &?
I have the memory location, right? How do i set the structure to that location?
EDIT; I forgot to mention (and subsequent answers have asked) but i'm intending to use this to wrap libvorbis for jni. Using jni means that i can't pass-back any of the structs that libvorbis does, but it requires them for its core functions. Therefore my wrapper is going to use vorbis directly to make the structs, and i pass back to java the pointer to them so that when i need to fill the buffer with more sound, i can simply re-reference the struct objects from the integer value of the pointer.
Why are you trying to cast pointers to integers and back? Is it just to learn, to figure something out, to work around some (untold) restriction, or what? It's a rather strange thing to be doing in a "plain" program such as this, as there is no point.
One likely cause of your problems is that there's no guarantee that a pointer will even fit in a long int. You can check by adding this code:
printf("a regular pointer is %u bytes, long int is %u",
(unsigned int) sizeof structure, (unsigned int) sizeof point);
If the numbers printed are different, that's probably the largest cause of your problems.
If you're using C99, you should #include <stdint.h> and then use the intptr_t type instead of unsigned long to hold a pointer, in any case.
structure is already a pointer, so you don't have to take the address there:
long int point = reinterpret_cast<long int>(structure);
DummyStructure* structure2 = reinterpret_cast<DummyStructure*>(point);
structure is already a pointer. You just want to do point = (long int) structure; (although, realistically, why a long int is involved at all, I don't know. It's a lot easier to just do structure2=structure; which works fine since structure and structure2 are both pointers.)
When you do &structure you're getting the memory location where the pointer itself is stored, which is why it isn't the correct value. You really probably don't want to ever use &structure unless it's being passed into a function which is going to change which DummyStructure structure points to.
Others have answered your question, but I'd like to make a more general comment. You mention JNI; in this case, you don't want long int, but jlong (which will be a typedef to either long int or long long int, depending on the machine. The problem is that long will have a different size, depending on the machine, and will map to a different Java type. Of course, you're counting on the fact that jlong will be big enough to hold a pointer, but since jlong is 64 bits, this seems like a safe bet for the immediate future (and beyond—I don't see a time coming where 64 bits of addressing doesn't suffice).
Also, I would suggest you borrow an idea from Swig, and avoid the subtleties of pointer to integral conversions, by using something like the following:
jlong forJNI = 0;
*reinterpret_cast<DummyStructure*>( &forJNI ) = structure;
// ...
structure2 = *reinterpret_cast<DummyStructure*>( &forJNI );
This is ugly, but it is guaranteed to work (with one caveat) for all
systems where sizeof(DummyStructure*) <= 64.
Just be sure to compile with strict aliasing turned off. (You have to
do this anytime you cast between pointers and ints. IMHO, you shouldn't
have to in cases where the casts are visible to the compiler, but some
compiler writers prefer breaking code intentionally, even when the
intent is clear.)
Long ints aren't the same as pointers. Why don't you just do:
DummyStructure** point;
structure = malloc(sizeof(DummyStructure));
structure->rate = 19;
structure->duration = 92;
point = &structure;
structure2 = *point;
The problem is probably a combination of the fact that 1) you don't dereference point. structure2 is a pointer to structure which is itself a pointer. You'd have to do:
structure2 = *((DummyStructure*)point);
But on top of that is the fact that long ints aren't the same as pointers. There's probably also a signedness issue here.
point = (long int)&structure;
This takes the address of structure which is a DummyStructure* and assign it to point. So point should be a double pointer (pointer to pointer). And when you assign structure2, it should be properly type casted.
typedef struct
{
int rate;
int duration;
} DummyStructure;
DummyStructure* structure;
DummyStructure* structure2;
long int **point;
structure = (DummyStructure*)malloc(sizeof(DummyStructure));
structure->rate = 19;
structure->duration = 92;
point = (long int **)&structure;
structure2 = (DummyStructure*)*point;
If your intention is to make structure2 point to the same memory location as structure, why don't you directly assign it rather than having an intermediate long int **.
The bug is that point is the address of structure, which is itself a pointer to a DummyStructure. In order for structure2 to point to the same thing as structure, you need to dereference point. Ignoring for a second all length, signedness, and similar issues,
structure2 = *(DummyStructure**)point;
would fix your code. But why not just:
structure2 = structure;
If you really want to hold a pointer in something generic, hold it in a void*. At least that's the right size.
I want to share some memory between different processes running a DLL. Therefore i create a memory-mapped-file by HANDLE hSharedFile = CreateFileMapping(...) then LPBYTE hSharedView = MapViewOfFile(...) and LPBYTE aux = hSharedView
Now I want to read a bool, a int, a float and a char from the aux array. Reading a bool and char is easy. But how would I go around reading a int or float? Notice that the int or float could start at position 9 e.g. a position that is not dividable by 4.
I know you can read a char[4] and then memcpy it into a float or int. But i really need this to be very fast. I am wondering if it is possible to do something with pointers?
Thanks in advance
If you know, for instance, that array elements aux[13..16] contain a float, then you can access this float in several ways:
float f = *(float*)&aux[13] ; // Makes a copy. The simplest solution.
float* pf = (float*)&aux[13] ; // Here you have to use *pf to access the float.
float& rf = *(float*)&aux[13] ; // Doesn't make a copy, and is probably what you want.
// (Just use rf to access the float.)
There is nothing wrong with grabbing an int at offset 9:
int* intptr = (int*) &data[9];
int mynumber = *intptr;
There might be a really tiny performance penalty for this "unaligned" access, but it will still work correctly, and the chances of you noticing any differences are slim.
First of all, I think you should measure. There are three options you can go with that I can think of:
with unaligned memory
with memcpy into buffers
with custom-aligned memory
Unaligned memory will work fine, it will just be slower than aligned. How slower is that, and does it matter to you? Measure to find out.
Copying into a buffer will trade off the slower unaligned accesses for additional copy operations. Measuring will tell you if it's worth it.
If using unaligned memory is too slow for you and you don't want to copy data around (perhaps because of the performance cost), then you can possibly do faster by wasting some memory space and increasing your program complexity. Don't use the mapped memory blindly: round your "base" pointer upwards to a suitable value (e.g. 8 bytes) and only do reads/writes at 8-byte increments of this "base" value. This will ensure that all your accesses will be aligned.
But do measure before you go into all this trouble.