Is there ever a need for a "do {...} while ( )" loop? - c++

Question

Bjarne Stroustrup (C++ creator) once said that he avoids "do/while" loops, and prefers to write the code in terms of a "while" loop instead. [See quote below.]
Since hearing this, I have found this to be true. What are your thoughts? Is there an example where a "do/while" is much cleaner and easier to understand than if you used a "while" instead?
In response to some of the answers: yes, I understand the technical difference between "do/while" and "while". This is a deeper question about readability and structuring code involving loops.
Let me ask another way: suppose you were forbidden from using "do/while" - is there a realistic example where this would give you no choice but to write unclean code using "while"?
From "The C++ Programming Language", 6.3.3:
In my experience, the do-statement is a source of errors and confusion. The reason is that its body is always executed once before the condition is evaluated. However, for the body to work correctly, something very much like the condition must hold even the first time through. More often than I would have guessed, I have found that condition not to hold as expected either when the program was first written and tested, or later after the code preceding it has been modified. I also prefer the condition "up front where I can see it." Consequently, I tend to avoid do-statements. -Bjarne
Avoiding the do/while loop is a recommendation included in the C++ Core Guidelines as ES.75, avoid do-statements.

Answer 1

Yes I agree that do while loops can be rewritten to a while loop, however I disagree that always using a while loop is better. do while always get run at least once and that is a very useful property (most typical example being input checking (from keyboard))
#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
char c;
do {
printf("enter a number");
scanf("%c", &c);
} while (c < '0' || c > '9');
}
This can of course be rewritten to a while loop, but this is usually viewed as a much more elegant solution.

Answer 2

do-while is a loop with a post-condition. You need it in cases when the loop body is to be executed at least once. This is necessary for code which needs some action before the loop condition can be sensibly evaluated. With while loop you would have to call the initialization code from two sites, with do-while you can only call it from one site.
Another example is when you already have a valid object when the first iteration is to be started, so you don't want to execute anything (loop condition evaluation included) before the first iteration starts. An example is with FindFirstFile/FindNextFile Win32 functions: you call FindFirstFile which either returns an error or a search handle to the first file, then you call FindNextFile until it returns an error.
Pseudocode:
Handle handle;
Params params;
if( ( handle = FindFirstFile( params ) ) != Error ) {
do {
process( params ); //process found file
} while( ( handle = FindNextFile( params ) ) != Error ) );
}

Answer 3

do { ... } while (0) is an important construct for making macros behave well.
Even if it's unimportant in real code (with which I don't necessarily agree), it's important for for fixing some of the deficiencies of the preprocessor.
Edit: I ran into a situation where do/while was much cleaner today in my own code. I was making a cross-platform abstraction of the paired LL/SC instructions. These need to be used in a loop, like so:
do
{
oldvalue = LL (address);
newvalue = oldvalue + 1;
} while (!SC (address, newvalue, oldvalue));
(Experts might realize that oldvalue is unused in an SC Implementation, but it's included so that this abstraction can be emulated with CAS.)
LL and SC are an excellent example of a situation where do/while is significantly cleaner than the equivalent while form:
oldvalue = LL (address);
newvalue = oldvalue + 1;
while (!SC (address, newvalue, oldvalue))
{
oldvalue = LL (address);
newvalue = oldvalue + 1;
}
For this reason I'm extremely disappointed in the fact that Google Go has opted to remove the do-while construct.

Answer 4

The following common idiom seems very straightforward to me:
do {
preliminary_work();
value = get_value();
} while (not_valid(value));
The rewrite to avoid do seems to be:
value = make_invalid_value();
while (not_valid(value)) {
preliminary_work();
value = get_value();
}
That first line is used to make sure that the test always evaluates to true the first time. In other words, the test is always superfluous the first time. If this superfluous test wasn't there, one could also omit the initial assignment. This code gives the impression that it fights itself.
In cases such like these, the do construct is a very useful option.

Answer 5

It's useful for when you want to "do" something "until" a condition is satisfied.
It can be fudged in a while loop like this:
while(true)
{
// .... code .....
if(condition_satisfied)
break;
}

Answer 6

(Assuming you know the difference between the both)
Do/While is good for bootstrapping/pre-initializing code before your condition is checked and the while loop is run.

Answer 7

In our coding conventions
if / while / ... conditions don't have side effects and
varibles must be initialized.
So we have almost never a do {} while(xx)
Because:
int main() {
char c;
do {
printf("enter a number");
scanf("%c", &c);
} while (c < '0' || c > '9');
}
is rewritten in:
int main() {
char c(0);
while (c < '0' || c > '9'); {
printf("enter a number");
scanf("%c", &c);
}
}
and
Handle handle;
Params params;
if( ( handle = FindFirstFile( params ) ) != Error ) {
do {
process( params ); //process found file
} while( ( handle = FindNextFile( params ) ) != Error ) );
}
is rewritten in:
Params params(xxx);
Handle handle = FindFirstFile( params );
while( handle!=Error ) {
process( params ); //process found file
handle = FindNextFile( params );
}

Answer 8

It's all about readability.
More readable code leads to less headache in code maintenance, and better collaboration.
Other considerations (such as optimization) are, by far, less important in most cases.
I'll elaborate, since I got a comment here:
If you have a code snippet A that uses do { ... } while(), and it's more readable than its while() {...} equivalent B, then I'd vote for A. If you prefer B, since you see the loop condition "up front", and you think it's more readable (and thus maintainable, etc.) - then go right ahead, use B.
My point is: use the code that is more readable to your eyes (and to your colleagues'). The choice is subjective, of course.

Answer 9

First of all, I do agree that do-while is less readable than while.
But I'm amazed that after so many answers, nobody has considered why do-while even exists in the language. The reason is efficiency.
Lets say we have a do-while loop with N condition checks, where the outcome of the condition depends on the loop body. Then if we replace it with a while loop, we get N+1 condition checks instead, where the extra check is pointless. That's no big deal if the loop condition only contains a check of an integer value, but lets say that we have
something_t* x = NULL;
while( very_slowly_check_if_something_is_done(x) )
{
set_something(x);
}
Then the function call in first lap of the loop is redundant: we already know that x isn't set to anything yet. So why execute some pointless overhead code?
I often use do-while for this very purpose when coding realtime embedded systems, where the code inside the condition is relatively slow (checking the response from some slow hardware peripheral).

Answer 10

This is cleanest alternative to do-while that I have seen. It is the idiom recommended for Python which does not have a do-while loop.
One caveat is that you can not have a continue in the <setup code> since it would jump the break condition, but none of the examples that show the benefits of the do-while need a continue before the condition.
while (true) {
<setup code>
if (!condition) break;
<loop body>
}
Here it is applied to some of the best examples of the do-while loops above.
while (true) {
printf("enter a number");
scanf("%c", &c);
if (!(c < '0' || c > '9')) break;
}
This next example is a case where the structure is more readable than a do-while since the condition is kept near the top as //get data is usually short yet the //process data portion may be lengthy.
while (true) {
// get data
if (data == null) break;
// process data
// process it some more
// have a lot of cases etc.
// wow, we're almost done.
// oops, just one more thing.
}

Answer 11

It is only personal choice in my opinion.
Most of the time, you can find a way to rewrite a do ... while loop to a while loop; but not necessarily always. Also it might make more logical sense to write a do while loop sometimes to fit the context you are in.
If you look above, the reply from TimW, it speaks for itself. The second one with Handle, especially is more messy in my opinion.

Answer 12

Read the Structured Program Theorem. A do{} while() can always be rewritten to while() do{}. Sequence, selection, and iteration are all that's ever needed.
Since whatever is contained in the loop body can always be encapsulated into a routine, the dirtiness of having to use while() do{} need never get worse than
LoopBody()
while(cond) {
LoopBody()
}

Answer 13

I hardly ever use them simply because of the following:
Even though the loop checks for a post-condition you still need to check for this post condition within your loop so that you don't process the post condition.
Take the sample pseudo code:
do {
// get data
// process data
} while (data != null);
Sounds simple in theory but in real world situations it would probably turn out to look like so:
do {
// get data
if (data != null) {
// process data
}
} while (data != null);
The extra "if" check just isn't worth it IMO. I have found very few instances where it's more terse to do a do-while instead of a while loop. YMMV.

Answer 14

In response to a question/comment from unknown (google) to the answer of Dan Olson:
"do { ... } while (0) is an important construct for making macros behave well."
#define M do { doOneThing(); doAnother(); } while (0)
...
if (query) M;
...
Do you see what happens without the do { ... } while(0)? It will always execute doAnother().

Answer 15

A do-while loop can always be rewritten as a while loop.
Whether to use only while loops, or while, do-while, and for-loops (or any combination thereof) depends largely on your taste for aesthetics and the conventions of the project you are working on.
Personally, I prefer while-loops because it simplifies reasoning about loop invariants IMHO.
As to whether there are situations where you do need do-while loops: Instead of
do
{
loopBody();
} while (condition());
you can always
loopBody();
while(condition())
{
loopBody();
}
so, no, you never need to use do-while if you cannot for some reason. (Of course this example violates DRY, but it's only a proof-of-concept. In my experience there is usually a way of transforming a do-while loop to a while loop and not to violate DRY in any concrete use case.)
"When in Rome, do as the Romans."
BTW: The quote you are looking for is maybe this one ([1], last paragraph of section 6.3.3):
From my experience, the do-statement is a source of error and confusion. The reason is that its body is always executed once before the condition is tested. For the correct functioning of the body, however, a similar condition to the final condition has to hold in the first run. More often than I expected I have found these conditions not to be true. This was the case both when I wrote the program in question from scratch and then tested it as well as after a change of the code. Additionally, I prefer the condition "up-front, where I can see it". I therefore tend to avoid do-statements.
(Note: This is my translation of the German edition. If you happen to own the English edition, feel free to edit the quote to match his original wording. Unfortunately, Addison-Wesley hates Google.)
[1] B. Stroustrup: The C++ programming language. 3rd Edition. Addison-Wessley, Reading, 1997.

Answer 16

consider something like this:
int SumOfString(char* s)
{
int res = 0;
do
{
res += *s;
++s;
} while (*s != '\0');
}
It so happens that '\0' is 0, but I hope you get the point.

Answer 17

My problem with do/while is strictly with its implementation in C. Due to the reuse of the while keyword, it often trips people up because it looks like a mistake.
If while had been reserved for only while loops and do/while had been changed into do/until or repeat/until, I don't think the loop (which is certainly handy and the "right" way to code some loops) would cause so much trouble.
I've ranted before about this in regards to JavaScript, which also inherited this sorry choice from C.

Answer 18

Well maybe this goes back a few steps, but in the case of
do
{
output("enter a number");
int x = getInput();
//do stuff with input
}while(x != 0);
It would be possible, though not necessarily readable to use
int x;
while(x = getInput())
{
//do stuff with input
}
Now if you wanted to use a number other than 0 to quit the loop
while((x = getInput()) != 4)
{
//do stuff with input
}
But again, there is a loss in readability, not to mention it's considered bad practice to utilize an assignment statement inside a conditional, I just wanted to point out that there are more compact ways of doing it than assigning a "reserved" value to indicate to the loop that it is the initial run through.

Answer 19

I like David Božjak's example. To play devil's advocate, however, I feel that you can always factor out the code that you want to run at least once into a separate function, achieving perhaps the most readable solution. For example:
int main() {
char c;
do {
printf("enter a number");
scanf("%c", &c);
} while (c < '0' || c > '9');
}
could become this:
int main() {
char c = askForCharacter();
while (c < '0' || c > '9') {
c = askForCharacter();
}
}
char askForCharacter() {
char c;
printf("enter a number");
scanf("%c", &c);
return c;
}
(pardon any incorrect syntax; I'm not a C programmer)