I have a 2 pass rendering pipeline - Deferred shading - for point cloud rendering. (GLSL 4.30 & c++17)
Shader pipeline:
Pointloud.vertex --> Pointcloud.fragment --> FullscreenQuad.vertex --> Deferred.fragment
What I want to achieve is to gather some data from Pointloud.vertex --> Pointcloud.fragment state and as a texture send it into Deferred.fragment shader.
Datas like:
Vertex_ID, Frag-Coord.z and texture coordinates (availible in Pointloud.vertex part )
Basically I want to create 2 texture in Pointcloud.fragment shader,on the given texture coord position store the dept information and in the another texture store the vertex ID on the same coords.
Is it possible to create and write into textures locally in shaders? Important is to solve this without c++ impact.
Shaders cannot allocate resources like textures and buffers. They can use resources, but they cannot create them ex nihilo. You have to create any such resources in the application. If you don't have the ability to modify the application's code, then there's nothing to be done.
I want to make a couple of vec4 vertex attributes in my shaders. I've done quite a bit of googling, but I can't seem to find consistent information for specifically what I want to do.
My goal here is to move skinning to the GPU, so I need a list of bones and weights per vertex, hence why I want to use vertex attributes. I have 2 arrays of floats that represent this data. Basically this:
weightsBuffer = new float[vSize*4];
indexesBuffer = new int[vSize*4];
The part that I can't consistently find is how to upload these and use them in the shader. To be clear, I don't want to upload all the position, normal and texture coordinate data, I'm already using display lists and have decided to keep using them for a few reasons that aren't relevant. How can I create the buffers and bind them properly so I can use them?
Thanks.
Binding your bone weights and indices is no different of a process than binding your position data. Assuming the data is generated properly in your buffers, you use glBindAttribLocation to bind the attribute index in your vertex stream to your shader variable, and glVertexAttribPointer to define your vertex array (and don't forget glEnableVertexAttribArray).
The exact code may vary, depending on whether you're using VAOs and VBOs (or just client buffers). If you want a more specific answer, you should provide your code and shader.
Im trying to implement modern OpenGL, but the problem is: most tutorials are based on 3.3+, and talk about GLSL 330, I only have GLSL 130. Therefore, many things are apparently different, since my VBO's do not work.
Could you give me general hints or a tutorial that explains how to use GLSL 130 with VBO's? In my case, I have the vbo loaded, but when I use my shader program, only vertices called with glVertex get rendered, it's like the vbo gets ignored (no input). How to solve this?
And can you use VBO's without shaders? I tried to do that, but it crashed...
Yes, VBOs can still be used in GLSL 130, and can still be used even without shaders. The purpose of the VBO is to hold the vertex attributes for drawing. Most up to date tutorials I've seen have you use the layout position specifier for indicating how to address the different attributes in your shader, i.e.
layout(location = 0) in vec3 Position;
This isn't supported in GLSL 130, so you have to have another way of relating the attribute with the VBO. It's pretty simple... you can use glBindAttribLocation or glGetAttribLocation. Calling glGetAttribLocation will give you the identifier you need to use in glVertexAttribPointer to associate the VBO data with the particular attribute. You can call this at any time after the program has been compiled. In addition, you can call glBindAttribLocation to specifically set the identifier that will be associated with a given attribute name if you call it after you've created the program object but before you link the shaders. This is handy because it lets you decide for yourself what the location should be, just as you would be able to with the layout specifier.
Finally, if you want to use a VBO without using a shader at all, then you still have to find a way of associating the data in the VBO with the various inputs that the fixed function pipeline expects. This is done using a now deprecated method called glEnableClientState() and glVertexPointer(), which together let you tell OpenGL what fixed function pipeline attribute you're going to populate, and how it can find the data in the VBO.
I'm coding a small rendering engine with GLSL shaders:
Each Mesh (well, submesh) has a number of vertex streams (eg. position,normal,texture,tangent,etc) into one big VBO and a MaterialID.
Each Material has a set of textures and properties (eg. specular-color, diffuse-color, color-texture, normal-map,etc)
Then I have a GLSL shader, with it's uniforms and attributes. Let's say:
uniform vec3 DiffuseColor;
uniform sampler2D NormalMapTexture;
attribute vec3 Position;
attribute vec2 TexCoord;
I'm a little bit stuck in trying to design a way for the GLSL shader to define the stream mappings (semantics) for the attributes and uniforms, and then bind the vertex streams to the appropriate attributes.
Something in the lines of saying to the mesh :"put your position stream in attribute "Position" and your tex coordinates in "TexCoord". Also put your material's diffuse color in "DiffuseColor" and your material's second texture in "NormalMapTexture"
At the moment I am using hard-coded names for the attributes (ie. vertex pos is always "Position" ,etc) and checking each uniform and attribute name to understand what the shader is using it for.
I guess I'm looking for some way of creating a "vertex declaration", but including uniforms and textures too.
So I'm just wondering how people do this in large-scale rendering engines.
Edit:
Recap of suggested methods:
1. Attribute/Uniform semantic is given by the name of the variable
(what I'm doing now)
Using pre-defined names for each possible attribute.The GLSL binder will query the name for each attribute and link the vertex array based on the name of the variable:
//global static variable
semantics (name,normalize,offset) = {"Position",false,0} {"Normal",true,1},{"TextureUV,false,2}
...when linking
for (int index=0;index<allAttribs;index++)
{
glGetActiveAttrib(program,index,bufSize,length,size[index],type[index],name);
semantics[index]= GetSemanticsFromGlobalHardCodedList(name);
}
... when binding vertex arrays for render
for (int index=0;index<allAttribs;index++)
{
glVertexAttribPointer(index,size[index],type[index],semantics[index]->normalized,bufferStride,semantics[index]->offset);
}
2. Predefined locations for each semantic
GLSL binder will always bind the vertex arrays to the same locations.It is up to the shader to use the the appropriate names to match. (This seems awfully similar to method 1, but unless I misunderstood, this implies binding ALL available vertex data, even if the shader does not consume it)
.. when linking the program...
glBindAttribLocation(prog, 0, "mg_Position");
glBindAttribLocation(prog, 1, "mg_Color");
glBindAttribLocation(prog, 2, "mg_Normal");
3. Dictionary of available attributes from Material, Engine globals, Renderer and Mesh
Maintain list of availlable attributes published by the active Material, the Engine globals, the current Renderer and the current Scene Node.
eg:
Material has (uniformName,value) = {"ambientColor", (1.0,1.0,1.0)}, {"diffuseColor",(0.2,0.2,0.2)}
Mesh has (attributeName,offset) = {"Position",0,},{"Normals",1},{"BumpBlendUV",2}
then in shader:
uniform vec3 ambientColor,diffuseColo;
attribute vec3 Position;
When binding the vertex data to the shader, the GLSL binder will loop over the attribs and bind to the one found (or not? ) in the dictionary:
for (int index=0;index<allAttribs;index++)
{
glGetActiveAttrib(program,index,bufSize,length,size[index],type[index],name);
semantics[index] = Mesh->GetAttributeSemantics(name);
}
and the same with uniforms, only query active Material and globals aswell.
Attributes:
Your mesh has a number of data streams. For each stream you can keep the following info: (name, type, data).
Upon linking, you can query the GLSL program for active attributes and form an attribute dictionary for this program. Each element here is just (name, type).
When you draw a mesh with a specified GLSL program, you go through programs attribute dictionary and bind the corresponding mesh streams (or reporting an error in case of inconsistency).
Uniforms:
Let the shader parameter dictionary be the set of (name, type, data link). Typically, you can have the following dictionaries:
Material (diffuse,specular,shininess,etc) - taken from the material
Engine (camera, model, lights, timers, etc) - taken from engine singleton (global)
Render (custom parameters related to the shader creator: SSAO radius, blur amount, etc) - provided exclusively by the shader creator class (render)
After linking, the GLSL program is given a set of parameter dictionaries in order to populate it's own dictionary with the following element format: (location, type, data link). This population is done by querying the list of active uniforms and matching (name, type) pair with the one in dictionaries.
Conclusion:
This method allows for any custom vertex attributes and shader uniforms to be passed, without hard-coded names/semantics in the engine. Basically only the loader and render know about particular semantics:
Loader fills out the mesh data streams declarations and materials dictionaries.
Render uses a shader that is aware of the names, provides additional parameters and selects proper meshes to be drawn with.
From my experience, OpenGL does not define the concept of attributes or uniforms semantics.
All you can do is define your own way of mapping your semantics to OpenGL variables, using the only parameter you can control about these variables: their location.
If you're not constrained by platform issues, you could try to use the 'new' GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location (core in OpenGL 3.3 if I'm not mistaken) that allows shaders to explicitly express which location is intended for which attribute. This way, you can hardcode (or configure) which data you want to bind on which attribute location, and query the shaders' locations after it's compiled. It seems that this feature is not yet mature, and perhaps subject to bugs in various drivers.
The other way around is to bind the locations of your attributes using glBindAttribLocation. For this, you have to know the names of the attributes that you want to bind, and the locations you want to assign them.
To find out the names used in a shader, you can:
query the shader for active attributes
parse the shader source code to find them yourself
I would not recommend using the GLSL parsing way (although it may suit your needs if you're in simple enough contexts): the parser can easily be defeated by the preprocessor. Supposing that your shader code becomes somewhat complex, you may want to start using #includes, #defines, #ifdef, etc. Robust parsing supposes that you have a robust preprocessor, which can become quite a heavy lift to set up.
Anyway, with your active attributes names, you have to assign them locations (and/or semantics), for this, you're alone with your use case.
In our engine, we happily hardcode locations of predefined names to specific values, such as:
glBindAttribLocation(prog, 0, "mg_Position");
glBindAttribLocation(prog, 1, "mg_Color");
glBindAttribLocation(prog, 2, "mg_Normal");
...
After that, it's up to the shader writer to conform to the predefined semantics of the attributes.
AFAIK it's the most common way of doing things, OGRE uses it for example. It's not rocket science but works well in practice.
If you want to add some control, you could provide an API to define the semantics on a shader basis, perhaps even having this description in an additional file, easily parsable, living near the shader source code.
I don't get into uniforms where the situation is almost the same, except that the 'newer' extensions allow you to force GLSL uniform blocks to a memory layout that is compatible with your application.
I'm not satisfied by all this myself, so I'll be happy to have some contradictory information :)
You may want to consider actually parsing the GLSL itself.
The uniform/attribute declaration syntax is pretty simple. You can come up with a small manual parser that looks for lines that start with uniform or attribute, get the type and name and then expose some C++ API using strings. This will save you the trouble of hard coded names. If you don't want to get your hands dirty with manual parsing a couple of likes of Spirit would do the trick.
You probably won't want to fully parse GLSL so you'll need to make sure you don't do anything funny in the decelerations that might alter the actual meaning. One complication that comes to mind is conditional compilation using macros in the GLSL.