Using libraries compiled with different compilers - c++

I have to write Qt-based application which will be using CTK library and some widgets from Slicer - all compiled in Debug mode in VS2008, also needs Qt 4.8.4.
Question: is it possible to develop and debug my application on another machine with Qt 4.8.4 and VS2010 installed, without any problems?

It depends on what the interfaces of the libraries are. In particular VS states that they do break binary compatibility among different versions of the C++ standard library for debugging and optimization purposes.
If the interfaces are pure Qt, you might get along (I would check with the Qt people), but beware, if this fail you are going to have a miserable time debugging. Binary incompatibilities are one of the harder things to figure out as the view the debugger gives you of an object does not necessarily represent what the code is using it as.
I'd recommend against this, and suggest that you install the same version of the compiler (and compile with the same flags)

Related

Can C++Builders clang32 compiler consume VS libraries

I'm trying out the clang32 compiler coming with C++ builder 10.2. Builder don't yet have any good support for CMake, so a great number of 3rd party libraries are (very) hard to compile using it.
Anyone knowing if there is any binary compatibility between clang32 and Visual Studio compiler?
There are essentially three different levels of compatibility you need to worry about:
File formats for object code and debug data, which allow you to use clang to build part of your project and Visual C++ cl.exe to build a library and then link them together and debug both.
Ability to write code and structure data that conforms to a portable binary interface, so it can be called across a mix of compilers.
Binary compatibility of the C++ standard library, so that standard library objects can be shared across a mix of compilers.
I can definitely say that (2) is supported and (3) absolutely is not; you can't even share standard library objects between different patchlevels of the same compiler. For (1) I don't know. A common way to bypass the issues with (1) is to build a DLL using each compiler, so they dynamically interface but no static linking nor merging of debug data is necessary.
If your concern is about cmake though, I think your problem is not the compiler (clang is available for Linux and cmake supports it well -- you should find the make scripts are capable of configuring all the compiler options). Whether it can generate project files for C++Builder is a different story, but perhaps you should consider using a different IDE. There are many with clang support, even Microsoft's Visual Studio has some ability to use clang for the compile step, and it's getting better with each release.

Releasing a program

So I made a c++ console game. Now I'd like to "release" the game. I want to only give the .exe file and not the code. How do i go about this. I'd like to make sure it will run on all windows devices.
I used the following headers-
iostream
windows.h
MMSystem.h
conio.h
fstream
ctime
string
string.h
*I used namespace std
*i used code::blocks 13.12 with mingw
& I used the following library-
libwinmm.a
Thank you in advance
EDIT
There are many different ways of installing applications. You could go with an installer like Inno or just go with a regular ZIP file. Some programs can even be standalone by packaging all resources within the executable, but this is not an easy option to my knowledge for C++.
I suppose the most basic way is to create different builds for different architectures with static libraries and then find any other DLLs specific to that architecture and bundle it together in one folder. Supporting x86/x86-64/ARM should be enough for most purposes. I do know that LLVM/Clang and GCC should have extensive support for many architectures, and if need be, you should be able to download the source code of the libraries you use and then compile them for each architecture you plan to support as well as the compilation options you need to compile to each one.
A virtual machine can also be helpful for this cross-compilation and compatibility testing.
tldr; Get all the libraries you need in either static or dynamic (DLL) format. Check that they are of the right architecture (x86 programs/code will not run on MIPS and vice versa). Get all your resources. Get a virtual machine, and then test your program on it. Keep testing until all the dependency problems go away.
Note: when I did this, I actually had some compatibility issues with, of all things, MinGW-w64. Just a note; you may need some DLLs from MinGW, or, if you're using Cygwin, of course you need the Cygwin DLL. I don't know much about MSVC, but I would assume that even they have DLLs needed on some level if you decide to support an outdated Windows OS.

Programming language that doesn't require a runtime/dependency to be installed

I want to know a programming language that doesn't require a runtime/dependency to be installed on the target system. My primary target is Windows XP and above.
I tried Autohotkey but it dosent have many advance functions.
Firstly, please confirm that does 'C++' requires to install a runtime/dependency on the target system is is Win XP or later. Secondly, please suggest me an alternative to C++ that doesnt require a dependency to be installed.
UPDATE: I will be using CodeBlocks! Does the C++ code compiled with that requires a dependency?
UPDATE: Sorry for the misconception, by CodeBlocks I mean the default compiler of CodeBlocks (ie: GNU GCC Compiler or MinGW).
Everything usually depends on the project, not the language. For example, programs compiled in Visual Studio's C++ uses some runtime libraries to work properly. However, you can configure the project in such way, that these libraries are included in the executable file, thus not needing additional dependencies. Delphi works similarly.
Here's the setting for Visual Studio Project:
If you choose option with "DLL", your program will require runtime DLLs. Otherwise it will be standalone, the runtimes will be incorporated into your binary file.
Edit: In response to question edit
I'll repeat myself: it depends on project, not the compiler or IDE.
If you want to create a program that does not require anything else in order to run, except for base operating system (no .NET, no Java, no Perl, no runtime libraries, etc), then your best bet is to use C or C++ and compile your program as single statically compiled executable.
It is rather difficult to achieve in practice, but it can be done.
Codeblocks is not a compiler, but an IDE, that can use different compilers.
The most common one is MinGW.
To complie with minGW so that all the standard libraries are statically linked you shold configure your project (see "project settings") so the the linker options include the -static flag.
You can even be more specific by stecifying
-static-libgcc
-static-libstdc++

MS vs Non-MS C++ compiler compatibility

Thinking of using MinGW as an alternative to VC++ on Windows, but am worried about compatibility issues. I am thinking in terms of behaviour, performance on Windows (any chance a MinGW compiled EXE might act up). Also, in terms of calling the Windows API, third-party DLLs, generatic and using compatible static libraries, and other issues encountered with mixing parts of the same application with the two compilers.
First, MinGW is not a compiler, but an environment, it is bundled with gcc.
If you think of using gcc to compile code and have it call the Windows API, it's okay as it's C; but for C++ DLLs generated by MSVC, you might have a harsh wake-up call.
The main issue is that in C++, each compiler has its own name mangling (or more generally ABI) and its own Standard library. You cannot mix two different ABI or two different Standard Libraries. End of the story.
Clang has a specific MSVC compatibility mode, allowing it to accept code that MSVC accepts and to emit code that is binary compatible with code compiled with MSVC. Indeed, it is even officially supported in Visual Studio.
Obviously, you could also simply do the cross-DLL communication in C to circumvent most issues.
EDIT: Kerrek's clarification.
It is possible to compile a large amount of C++ code developed for VC++ with the MinGW toolchain; however, the ease with which you complete this task depends significantly on how C++-standards-compliant the code is.
If the C++ code utilizes VC++ extensions, such as __uuidof, then you will need to rewrite these portions.
You won't be able to compile ATL & MFC code with MinGW because the ATL & MFC headers utilize a number of VC++ extensions and depend on VC++-specific behaviors:
try-except Statements
__uuidof
throw(...)
Calling a function without forward-declaring it.
__declspec(nothrow)
...
You won't be able to use VC++-generated LIB files, so you can't use MinGW's linker, ld, to link static libraries without recompiling the library code as a MinGW A archive.
You can link with closed-source DLLs; however, you will need to export the symbols of the DLL as a DEF file and use dlltool to make the corresponding A archive (similar to the VC++ LIB file for each DLL).
MinGW's inclusion of the w32api project basically means that code using the Windows C API will compile just fine, although some of the newer functions may not be immediately available. For example, a few months ago I was having trouble compiling code that used some of the "secure" functions (the ones with the _s suffix), but I got around this problem by exporting the symbols of the DLL as a DEF, preparing an up-to-date A archive, and writing forward declarations.
In some cases, you will need to adjust the arguments to the MinGW preprocessor, cpp, to make sure that all header files are properly included and that certain macros are predefined correctly.
What I recommend is just trying it. You will definitely encounter problems, but you can usually find a solution to each by searching on the Internet or asking someone. If for no other reason, you should try it to learn more about C++, differences between compilers, and what standards-compliant code is.

C++ Dynamic Library Compiling/Linking

I know that if I link my c++ program to a dynamic library (DLL) that was built with a different version of Visual Studio, it won't work because of the binary compatibility issue.
(I have experienced this with Boost library and VS 2005 and 2008)
But my question is: is this true for all versions of MSVS? Does this apply to static libraries(LIB) as well? Is this an issue with GCC & Linux as well? and finally how about linking in VS to a DLL built with MinGW?
By the way aside from cross-platform or cross-compiler, why can't two version of the same compiler(VS) be compatibile?
Hi. I know that if I link my c++ program to a dynamic library (DLL) that was built with a different version of Visual Studio, it won't work because of the binary compatibility issue. (I have experienced this with Boost library and VS 2005 and 2008)
I do not remember ever seeing MS changing the ABI, so technically different versions of the compiler will produce the same output (given the same flags (see below)).
Therefore I don't think this is not incompatibilities in Dev Studio but changes in Boost.
Different versions of boost are not backwards compatible (in binary, source they are backward compatible).
But my question is: is this true for all versions of MSVS?
I don't believe there is a problem. Now if you use different flags you can make the object files incompatible. This is why debug/release binaries are built into separate directories and linked against different versions of the standard run-time.
Does this apply to static libraries(LIB) as well?
You must link against the correct static library. But once the static library is in your code it is stuck there all resolved names will not be re-resolved at a later date.
Is this an issue with GCC & Linux as well?
Yes. GCC has broken backwards compatability in the ABI a couple of times (several on purpose (some by mistake)). This is not a real issue as on Linux code is usually distributed as source and you compile it on your platform and it will work.
and finally how about linking in VS to a DLL built with MinGW?
Sorry I don't know.
By the way aside from cross-platform or cross-compiler, why can't two version of the same compiler(VS) be compatibile?
Well fully optimized code objects may be compressed more thus alignment is different. Other compiler flags may affect the way code is generated that is incompatible with other binary objects (changing the way functions are called (all parameters on the stack or some parameters in registers)). Technically only objects compiled with exactly the same flags should be linked together (technically it is a bit looser than that as a lot of flags don't affect the binary compatibility).
Note some libraries are released with multiple versions of the same library that are compiled in different ways. You usually distinguish the library by the extension on the end. At my last job we used the following convention.
libASR.dll // A Sincgle threaded Relase version lib
libASD.dll // A Single threaded Debug version
libAMR.dll // A Multi threaded Release version
libAMD.dll // A Multi threaded Debug version
If properly built, DLLs should be programming-language and version neutral. You can link to DLLs built with VB, C, C++, etc.
You can use dependency walker to examine the exported functions in the dll.
To answer part of your question, GCC/Linux does not have this problem. At least, not as often. libstdc++ and glibc are the standard C++/C libraries on GNU systems, and the authors of those libraries go to efforts to avoid breaking compatibility. glibc is pretty much always backward compatible, but libstdc++ has broken ABI several times in the past and probably will again in the future.
It is very difficult to write stable ABIs in C++ compared to C, because the automatic features in C++ take away some of the control you need to maintain an ABI. Especially once you get into templates and inline functions, where some of the code gets embedded in your application rather than staying contained in the shared library. That means that the object's structure can't ever change without requiring a recompilation of the application.
In practice, it isn't a huge deal on Windows. It would be fantastic if Microsoft just made the MSI installer know how to grab Microsoft-provided DLLs from Windows Update when an app is installed that needs them, but simply adding the redistributable to an InnoSetup-generated installer works well enough.