I am looking for a C++ IDE in which I can actively play the game and test the updates live instead of testing it, redoing th code, compiling it and running it again. I'm running Windows 7 x86 professional.
This isn't really an answer, and so probably shouldn't get upvotes, but has information.
I don't know of any C++ IDE that can do runtime updates of code, but it's definitely not impossible. There's lots of C++ assemblers which already JIT code, live updates is merely the next step that no IDE has taken quite yet that I know of.
asmjit can JIT C++
Visual Studio can JIT C++/CLI (which isn't quite C++) (RMartinho corrects that VIsual Studio compiles C++/CLI to IL, and then JITs the IL. Tehcnically different.)
cling uses the clang fruntend and LLVM backend, which has a JIT code generation system.
R.Martinho has also reminded me that Microsoft Visual Studio already has this feature. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/esaeyddf(v=vs.100).aspx If you "stop" the code, you can make changes, and it will apply those changes and resume execution.
There's an interesting project at http://runtimecompiledcplusplus.blogspot.co.uk/ that is working on this problem and looks like it might work for you; I haven't used it myself but it looks active if still a little raw. It uses the Visual Studio 2010 compiler.
You can't run C++ code without compiling. Minor syntactic differences between languages shouldn't be an issue so you shouldn't limit yourself to just one language.
I suggest you give Unity a chance; there's a fairly robust free version available. You can write scripts in C# (a language similar to C++), or UnityScript (somehting similar to JavaScript) or Boo (similar to Python) and you can test the results right away, without having to compile.
What about Edit and Continue in Visual Studio? In order to use it, you have to pause execution (either by breakpoint or Pause button), recompile and resume. Note, that you can edit the code while the program is running. I know you can't test the game live, but you don't have to reload resources etc. It's IDE integration makes it really easy and straightforward to use.
If you want changes to be visible live, though, consider using script language such as Lua. One of their purposes is what you want to achieve.
I've listed the options for runtime compilation of C++ code on the alternatives wiki page of Runtime Compiled C++.
From the sounds you may interested in either Recode or Alcanterea.
Organize your C++ game to use plugins, and add a feature to load a new (binary version of) plugin during the game.
Then, you could play your game, recompile a plugin, reload it (so invoke your dynamic linker at runtime), and continue playing.
It is not failproof, but it might usually work.
Of course you cannot unload a plugin which has some active call frame on the (or some thread's) call stack. I would suggest to avoid unloading old plugins...
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I want to use Shiny on a large-ish C++ code base, but I'd rather not add the required PROFILE_FUNC() calls to my source. I figure it's easy enough to write a script that for each source file, regex-searches for function definitions, adds a macro call just after the opening bracket and pipes the result to g++; but that seems an awfully obvious source-code instrumentation case, so much so I find it hard to believe no-one has come up with a better solution already.
Unfortunately, searching around I could only find references to LLVM / clang instrumentation and the odd research tool, which look like overly complicated solutions to my comparatively simple problem. In fact, there seems to be no straightforward way to perform simple automated code edits to C/C++ code just prior to compilation.
Is that so? Or am I missing something?
Update: I forgot to mention this "C++ code base" is a native application I am porting to Android. So I can use neither gprof (which isn't available on Android), Valgrind (which requires an older version of the NDK than what i'm using) nor the android-ndk-profiler (which is for dynamic libraries loaded by Android Activities, either Java or native, not plain executables). Hence my looking into Shiny.
Update 2: Despite previous claims I actually managed to build Valgrind on Android NDK r8e, so I settled on using it instead of Shiny. However I still think the original question is valid: isn't there any straightforward tool for effecting simple compile-time edits to C / C++ source files – some sort of macro preprocessor on steroids?
You can consider gprof or valgrind. If memory serves, gprof uses instrumentation and valgrind is a sampling-based profiler. Neither of them requires you to annotate source code.
You can use the android ndk profiler to profile C/C++ code
More info here
http://code.google.com/p/android-ndk-profiler/
You use gprof to analyse the results
So I watched this video months back where Epic showcased their new Unreal Engine 4 developer features. Sorry I could not find the video but I'll try my best to explain.
The one feature that got my attention was the C++ "on the fly" modification and compilation. The guy showed how he was playing the game in editor and modified some variables in the code, saved it and the changes were immediately mirrored in game.
So I've been wondering... How does one achieve this? Currently I can think of two possible ways: either a hoax and it was only "c style"-scripting language not C++ itself OR it's shared library (read: DLL) magic.
Here's something I whipped up to try myself(simplified):
for(;;)
{
Move DLL from build directory to execution directory
Link to DLL using LoadLibrary() / dlopen() and fetch a pointer to function "foo()" from it
for(;;)
{
Call the function "foo()" found in the dll
Check the source of the dll for changes
If it has changed, attempt to compile
On succesfull compile, break
}
Unload DLL with FreeLibrary() / dlclose()
}
Now that seems to work but I can't help but wonder what other methods are there?
And how would this kind of approach compare versus using a scripting language?
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvfn1p92_8&t=10m0s
Yes, "hot code modification" it's definitely a capability that many IDEs/debuggers can have to one extent or another. Here's a good article:
http://www.technochakra.com/debugging-modifying-code-at-runtime/
Here's the man page for MSVS "Edit and Continue":
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/esaeyddf%28v=vs.80%29.aspx
Epic's Hot Reload works by having the game code compiled and loaded as a dll/.so, and this is then dynamically loaded by the engine. Runtime reloading is then simply re-compiling the library and reloading, with state stored and restored if needed.
There are alternatives. You could take a look at Runtime Compiled C++ (or see RCC++ blog and videos), or perhaps try one of the other alternatives I've listed on the wiki.
As the author of Runtime Compiled C++ I think it has some advantages - it's far faster to recompile since it only compiles the code you need, and the starting point can be a single exe, so you don't need to configure a seperate project for a dll. However it does require some learning and a bit of extra code to get this to work.
Neither C nor C++ require ahead-of-time compilation, although the usual target environments (operating systems, embedded systems, high-performance number crunching) often benefit greatly from AOT.
It's completely possible to have a C++ script interpreter. As long as it adheres to the behavior in the Standard, it IS C++, and not a "hoax" as you suggest.
Replacement of a shared library is also possible, although to make it work well you'll need a mechanism for serializing all state and reloading it under the new version.
I want to extend the features of C/C++ compiler used in Visual studio. Basically, I want to write a tool which parses the c/c++ code and prints out where all branching (if check, break statement, for/while loops, etc) happens in the code. Then I would like to use this information while executing code to grey out areas of code that have not been executed, for a given testcase.
Is it possible? Does Microsoft provide any way to add features to its compiler/debugger?
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Microsoft's compilers always were a black box. (Taken from their own site from the upcoming link). So you have a chance that it is not possible right now. But with project Roslyn that's about to be changed.
Anyway, it seems to me you shouldn't look into the compiler but the debugging part of Visual Studio. There are APIs that allow you to interact with the debugger and that's probably the road you want to take (and others did take).
You would not normally do that by modifying the compiler, and with Microsoft's compiler you cannot in any case. Rather you would write a preproccessor that instruments the code (inserts additional code at the conditional nodes to trace the control flow), and then a tool that process the trace data to determine what ran.
Visual Studio itself has an add-in architecture that would allow you to render this data in the editor in the manner you describe.
The instrumentation itself is not trivial - it will need to be able to parse all valid C and C++ code and be able to retain the original line number information so that the uninstrumented code can be presented. For completeness it would have to be able to re-factor code using the ternary ?: operator so that its flow could be instrumented. The instrumented code would also need to be the code output by the standard pre-processor rather than the original source code - making line number tracking a little more difficult (although the preprocesor already manages that for use with the debugger).
Use preprocessor to instrument code. Code should spit out a file while running. At breakpoints, process this information and "grey out" code using debugger APIs + visual studio addin mechanism.
This is basically a duplicate of:
Netbeans or Eclipse for C++?
But, that question as 3+ years old, and a lot has changed since then.
I have a large code base with a custom (but Makefile based) build system. The areas I am specifically wondering about include:
Syntax highlighting
Code navigation.
Code hints.
"ReSharper style" code helpers.
Documentation integration.
Debugger UI and features.
Has anyone had the chance to evaluate both Netbeans and Eclipse?
EDIT: As a followup question, are any of the Netbeans users here concerned with its future given Oracle's recent bad history with "open" efforts? (Open Solaris, MySQL, Open Office)
Thank you
I cannot comment on eclipse, but on netbeans 7 I will say things that are very important for me and that work fine so far:
code completion, go to declarations
pkg-config automatic include management for parsing
stuff that sometimes works and sometimes don't
find usages, sometimes it might fail to find usages in other open projects
debugger sometimes gets confused with unittest-cpp macros and it will not go on the appropiate line
stuff that are not yet working and i care deeply:
C++0x syntax highlighting (auto, lambdas, enum class, variadic templates, none of them are recognized by the built-in parser)
stuff that is not quite working but i could not care less:
git integration. I enjoy using git from command-line so this is a non-issue
in all, the IDE is very usable. I hope to have a chance to try out latest cdt on Indigo Eclipse, but so far i haven't that much of a real reason to investigate
I cannot comment on Netbeans, but I can offer you information on Eclipse. I work with C++ on UNIX systems, and I have started to use Eclipse when exploring large code bases that I know little about. I don't use it to build, but it would be easy to integrate our build system with it as one only needs commands.
Eclipse has most of what you are looking for: (I'm speaking of Eclipse/CDT)
Not only can you completely customize your syntax highlighting, you can also have it format the code with templates. My company has a code standard for spacing, tabs and formatting of functions and conditional code, and with little effort I was able to modify an existing template to meet our code standards.
The navigation is not bad, if you highlight and hover over a variable, it shows you the definition in a small pop-up bubble. If you do the same for a type, it will you show you where the type is defined. For functions, it will show the first few lines of the implementation of the function, with an option to expand it and see the whole function. I find all of these nice for code discovery and navigation. You can also highlight a variable, and use a right-click menu option to jump to its declaration.
I suppose by code hints you are referring to something like intellisense? This is the main reason why I use Eclipse when looking over a large code base. Just hit the '.' or '->' and a second later you get your options.
The debugger UI is quite capable. You can launch gdb within the tool and it allows you to graphically move through your code just as you would in a tool like ddd or Visual C++. It offers standard features like viewing registers, memory, watching variables, etc.
That being said, I have found some weaknesses. The first is that it doesn't really strongly support revision control systems outside of CVS and SVN very easily (integrated into the GUI). I found a plug-in for the system we use at my company, but it spews XML and Unicode garbage. It was easier to just use the revision control on the command line. I suspect this is the plug-in's issue and not Eclipse. I wish there were better tool integration though.
The second complaint is that for each project I have to manually setup the include directories and library paths. Perhaps with an environment variable this could be circumvented? Or I may just do not know how to set things up correctly. Then again if it is not obvious to a developer how to do this, I consider that a weakness of the tool.
All in all I like working with Eclipse. It is not my main editing environment, but I appreciate it for working on large code bases.
I'm a huge fan of Netbeans. I am in a similar situation to yours, but creating the project was very easy. Just point Netbeans at where the code is checked out and it figures out most things for itself. I rarely have to do any configuration. One thing to note though, if your tree is very large, it can take some time to fully index - and while it does, memory and cpu will be hosed on the box.
The integration with cvs is awesome, and the Hudson integration is very cool for CB. I've not used Git myself, though I should imagine it's a no-brainer.
One thing that does irritate me no end is that it does not behave very well with code relying heavily on templates. i.e. shows lots of warnings and errors about types not being found etc.
I have not used the latest version of Eclipse, I tried the major release before the current one and gave up because it did not have the same smooth project integration with the makefiles etc. I find it's not as nice if you don't want to use it's make system - though I could be wrong.
I don't use any of the code formatting provided, I instead prefer something like AStyle instead. I know that NetBeans does a good job with Java - but have not used it for C++. CDT I seem to remember doing some odd stuff with indentation when formatting C++ code - esp. if templates are involved - but that was atleast two years ago.
Hope some of it helps - the best way to do this is to download and try for yourself and see what works for you. Anything we tell you is purely subjective.
I used to work with Netbeans with MinGW, I Just tried 7.0.1.
I currently use Eclipse Indigo with CDT and MinGW - It's better performance wise (less CPU & Memory).
Netbeans creates a makefile to compile all the time,
In Eclipse you can build directly with the CDT-Toolchain or use Makefile - Eclipse is more flexible.
Debugging: Netbeans might be better in Solaris/Linux.
I Personally rather eclipse over Netbeans, I think eclipse is more professional.
One particular issue that causes me quite a lot of grief with Netbeans 7.0 is that it tends to want to work with utf8 files, and not all of out c++ projects are utf8. It will issue a warning about opening such a file, and if you do open it, will corrupt said file, which is a pain.
I've not found out how to properly make netbeans handle this. Apparently the encoding can be changed, but for the entire project. So presumably changing it to us-acii would stop this problem, although non ascii characters wouldn't display properly.
Using Microsoft Visual Studio 98, Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 SP6
When running under the debugger, there's only one problem. If I pause the program and resume, everything's fine.
The problem? When I hit a breakpoint, my program stops. But not in a good way; execution halts, I'm thrown out of debug mode into edit mode. All's fine until a breakpoint is hit. And I know it's hitting the breakpoint - I see a flash of the little yellow arrow pointing at the right line of code, local variables in the inspect window and the call stack in that window. And then I'm staring at the editor.
This happens in all projects.
I've uninstalled and re-installed MSVC6. It didn't help.
I'm about to start over on a new PC; before I go that far, anyone know what I've done to this one?
Note: MSVC6 is not my choice, but there are reasons. It's the tool I work with. And, we get to target NT4, so given 2008 can't target NT4 and 2005 has issues with MFC and NT4, MSVC6 it is.
Stop beating on VC6. It's old. The STL was updated in 1996 from HP code written in 1994. C++ was ratified in 1998.
What is the code doing when you are breaking? Can you reduce the situation into a simple test. When I try that I usually find the cause. If you can do that so it still happens then I'll take a look at it for you. I too am unfortunate enough to use VC6 for my day to day work.
Visual C++ Express 2008 can't be used in certain situations.
The first thing I would check is if this project does the same thing on other machines. If not, it could be your box is heading south. If not it's the VC6 project itself.
Typically I get goofiness with the debugger when my program is doing something with the hardware, especially the video.
I would recommend turning off parts of your program until you figure out what part is causing this. If your program is small and not doing much it might be that the project is corrupted and needs to get rebuilt. Make a new project from scratch and put your files and settings back in by hand.
Is it specific to the app you're working on or do all breakpoints in any app break the debugger?
Is anything different if you attach the debugger manually after launching the app normally?
Is the device running out of memory and therefore gives up the ghost when it requires the additional memory to stop at the breakpoint?
Is the device running out of memory and therefore gives up the ghost when it requires the additional memory to stop at the breakpoint?
No, there's over a gig of RAM to go, and even more of virtual memory.
I haven't used MSVC6 in years, but I remember the debugger basically being a flaky piece of crap. Things like this would regularly happen for no apparent reason because it just didn't like your code that day.
In addition to the debugger being a flaky piece of crap, the rest of it was too.
It's STL implementation isn't threadsafe, it doesn't support very much of the C++ standard, and the IDE is sorely lacking in niceties.
I'm pretty sure you also just simply can't use any versions of the Platform SDK from the last 5 years because it's too old to grok them. Not a good thing.
You'd be mad to keep using it when there is Visual C++ Express 2008 which you can download for free.