Opengl rotation at a point - opengl

I want to rotate a shape in opengl, but I want to rotate it at a point. Namely I have a cylinder and I want to rotate it so it looks like it is spinning at the bottom and the spin 'size' increases until the object falls to the ground. How would I do this kind of rotation in opengl?

Translate to the origin
Rotate
Translate back
So, if you want to rotate around (a,b,c), you would translate (-a,-b,-c) in step 1, and (a,b,c) in step 3.
(Don't be afraid of the number of operations, by the way. Internally all you do is multiply the transform matrix three times, but the pipeline that transforms the vertices is agnostic of how many operations you did, it still only uses the one final matrix. The magic of using a matrix for transformation.)

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Correct way to translate in a 3D world after rotating?

I have a basic cube generated in my 3D world. I can rotate correctly around the camera, but when I translate after rotating, the translations are not correct.
For example, if I rotate 90 degrees and translate into the Z axis, it would move as if translating in the X axis.
glLoadIdentity();
glRotatef(angle,0,1,0); //Rotate around the camera.
glTranslatef(movX,movY,movZ); //Translate after rotating around the camera.
glCallList(cubes[0]);
I need some help with this. Also, I tried translating before rotating, but the rotation is not at the camera. It is at the edge of the cube.
Keep in mind that in OpenGL that the transformation is applied to the camera, not the objects rendered; so you observe the inverse of the transformation you expected.
Also in OpenGL the Y and Z axes are flipped (Y is vertical), so you observe a horizontal translation instead of a vertical one.
Also, because the object is rotated though 90 degrees about Y, the X and Z axes replace each other (one of them is reversed).
willywonkadailyblah's answer is half correct. Because you are using the old OpenGL, you're using the old matrix stack. You are modifying the modelview matrix when you're doing your glRotatef and glTranslatef calls. The modelview matrix is actually the model's matrix and the camera's view matrix precombined (already multiplied together). These matrices are what determine where your object is in 3D space and where your viewing position/direction of the world is. So you can think of your calls as moving the camera, but it's probably easier to think of them as moving and rotating the world.
These rotate and translation calls are linear transformations. This has a precise definition, but for our purposes it means that you can represent the transformation as a matrix and you multiply it with the point's coordinates to apply the transformation to a point. Now matrix multiplication is not commutative, meaning AB != BA. All this to say that when you rotate, then translate it is different than translating and rotating, which I think you know. But then when you translate, rotate, and translate again, it might be a little more difficult to follow what you're actually doing. Worse even if you throw in some scaling in there. So I would suggest learning how linear transformations work and maintaining your own matrices for the objects and camera if you're serious about learning OpenGL.
learnopengl.org is an excellent website, but it teaches you Modern OpenGL, not what you're currently using. But the lesson on transformations and on coordinate systems are probably generally helpful, even without exact code for you to follow

OpenGl polygon rotation

I'm trying to implement a moving and rotating polygon in OpenGl and C++.
Movement and rotation are along the XZ plane(2D transformations only).
The polygon is defined by a centre point and a set of vertices whose coordinates are stored as offsets from the centre point.
The polygon is moved based on the user's key-press either in X or Z direction by simply adding the moved distance to the centre point and updating the vertices by adding the offset values to centre coordinates.
Rotation with respect to centre point is implemented by using the glRotatef() function.
But i need to know the coordinates of vertices for collision detection calculations.
Is there any chance of just retrieving the vertex coordinates of the transformed polygon without performing matrix operations myself?
The glRotatef function creates a matrix which is multiplied with the current matrix that exists on the stack to get the rotation on screen. Even if you could obtain that matrix then you would still have to multiply it against your vectors to obtain the values you want, which is what you'd have to do if you did the maths yourself. Just like datenwolf said, it would be better for you to make a maths library yourself that will perform all the necessary things needed for manipulating objects in a 2d or 3d world.
Is there any chance of just retrieving the vertex coordinates of the transformed polygon...
OpenGL is not a math library. It's only meant for drawing. Also the matrix manipulation functions of fixed function OpenGL are obsolete and have been removed from OpenGL-3 core and further.
without performing matrix operations myself?
In fact, this is the recommended way to do this. Remember: OpenGL is just your drawing tool, not a 3D-renderer-game-simulation-engine-math-geometry-toolkit.

Object axis rotation in OpenGL

When I rotate an object in OpenGL, the axis also rotates with the object. Is there a way to avoid this? Basically, I want to achieve the successive rotations around the same axis.
I am not very familiar with quaternions but as I read it, it seems to be a solution. Is there any other way to get it?
When I rotate an object in OpenGL, the axis also rotates with the object.
The transformation does not rotate the object, it rotates the coordinate system. Chaining rotations is noncommutative. So what you must do is simply: Swap the rotation operations, that the first rotation applied, i.e. the last you multiply on the stack designates your object rotation, followed (i.e. previously multiplied) with the other rotation.
BTW: In a comment you wrote:
I store the previous transformation using glGetDoublev and then before applying the new rotation, I load that matrix by glLoad and then multiply it with the new rotation matrix. In my application, I have to serialize the object on disk, thats why I did it this way. Along with the object, I store the transformation matrix as well
This suggests you've mistaken OpenGL for a scene graph or a matrix math library. It is neither. Don't use OpenGL as an "object store" (it doesn't work like this), and don't rely on OpenGL's matrix functions (they got removed from OpenGL-3 anyway).

OpenGL: Understanding transformation

I was trying to understand lesson 9 from NEHEs tutorial, which is about bitmaps being moved in 3d space.
the most interesting thing here is to move 2d bitmap texture on a simple quad through 3d space and keep it facing the screen (viewer) all the time. So the bitmap looks 3d but is 2d facing the viewer all the time no matter where it is in the 3d space.
In lesson 9 a list of stars is generated moving in a circle, which looks really nice. To avoid seeing the star from its side the coder is doing some tricky coding to keep the star facing the viewer all the time.
the code for this is as follows: ( the following code is called for each star in a loop)
glLoadIdentity();
glTranslatef(0.0f,0.0f,zoom);
glRotatef(tilt,1.0f,0.0f,0.0f);
glRotatef(star[loop].angle,0.0f,1.0f,0.0f);
glTranslatef(star[loop].dist,0.0f,0.0f);
glRotatef(-star[loop].angle,0.0f,1.0f,0.0f);
glRotatef(-tilt,1.0f,0.0f,0.0f);
After the lines above, the drawing of the star begins. If you check the last two lines, you see that the transformations from line 3 and 4 are just cancelled (like undo). These two lines at the end give us the possibility to get the star facing the viewer all the time. But i dont know why this is working.
And i think this comes from my misunderstanding of how OpenGL really does the transformations.
For me the last two lines are just like undoing what is done before, which for me, doesnt make sense. But its working.
So when i call glTranslatef, i know that the current matrix of the view gets multiplied with the translation values provided with glTranslatef.
In other words "glTranslatef(0.0f,0.0f,zoom);" would move the place where im going to draw my stars into the scene if zoom is negative. OK.
but WHAT exactly is moved here? Is the viewer moved "away" or is there some sort of object coordinate system which gets moved into scene with glTranslatef? Whats happening here?
Then glRotatef, what is rotated here? Again a coordinate system, the viewer itself?
In a real world. I would place the star somewhere in the 3d space, then rotate it in the world space around my worlds origin, then do the moving as the star is moving to the origin and starts at the edge again, then i would do a rotate for the star itself so its facing to the viewer. And i guess this is done here. But how do i rotate first around the worlds origin, then around the star itself? for me it looks like opengl is switching between a world coord system and a object coord system which doesnt really happen as you see.
I dont need to add the rest of the code, because its pretty standard. Simple GL initializing for 3d drawings, the rotating stuff, and then the simple drawing of QUADS with the star texture using blending. Thats it.
Could somebody explain what im misunderstanding here?
Another way of thinking about the gl matrix stack is to walk up it, backwards, from your draw call. In your case, since your draw is the last line, let's step up the code:
1) First, the star is rotated by -tilt around the X axis, with respect to the origin.
2) The star is rotated by -star[loop].angle around the Y axis, with respect to the origin.
3) The star is moved by star[loop].dist down the X axis.
4) The star is rotated by star[loop].angle around the Y axis, with respect to the origin. Since the star is not at the origin any more due to step 3, this rotation both moves the center of the star, AND rotates it locally.
5) The star is rotated by tilt around the X axis, with respect to the origin. (Same note as 4)
6) The star is moved down the Z axis by zoom units.
The trick here is difficult to type in text, but try and picture the sequence of moves. While steps 2 and 4 may seem like they invert each other, the move in between them changes the nature of the rotation. The key phrase is that the rotations are defined around the Origin. Moving the star changes the effect of the rotation.
This leads to a typical use of stacking matrices when you want to rotate something in-place. First you move it to the origin, then you rotate it, then you move it back. What you have here is pretty much the same concept.
I find that using two hands to visualize matrices is useful. Keep one hand to represent the origin, and the second (usually the right, if you're in a right-handed coordinate system like OpenGL), represents the object. I splay my fingers like the XYZ axes to I can visualize the rotation locally as well as around the origin. Starting like this, the sequence of rotations around the origin, and linear moves, should be easier to picture.
The second question you asked pertains to how the camera matrix behaves in a typical OpenGL setup. First, understand the concept of screen-space coordinates (similarly, device-coordinates). This is the space that is actually displayed. X and Y are the vectors of your screen, and Z is depth. The space is usually in the range -1 to 1. Moving an object down Z effectively moves the object away.
The Camera (or Perspective Matrix) is typically responsible for converting 'World' space into this screen space. This matrix defines the 'viewer', but in the end it is just another matrix. The matrix is always applied 'last', so if you are reading the transforms upward as I described before, the camera is usually at the very top, just as you are seeing. In this case you could think of that last transform (translate by zoom) as a very simple camera matrix, that moves the camera back by zoom units.
Good luck. :)
The glTranslatef in the middle is affected by the rotation : it moves the star along axis x' to distance dist, and axis x' is at that time rotated by ( tilt + angle ) compared to the original x axis.
In opengl you have object coordinates which are multiplied by a (a stack of) projection matrix. So you are moving the objects. If you want to "move a camera" you have to mutiply by the inverse matrix of the camera position and axis :
ProjectedCoords = CameraMatrix^-1 . ObjectMatrix . ObjectCoord
I also found this very confusing but I just played around with some of the NeHe code to get a better understanding of glTranslatef() and glRotatef().
My current understanding is that glRotatef() actually rotates the coordinate system, such that glRotatef(90.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f, 1.0f) will cause the x-axis to be where the y-axis was previously. After this rotation, glTranslatef(1.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f) will move an object upwards on the screen.
Thus, glTranslatef() moves objects in accordance with the current rotation of the coordinate system. Therefore, the order of glTranslatef and glRotatef are important in tutorial 9.
In technical terms my description might not be perfect, but it works for me.

How does zooming, panning and rotating work?

Using OpenGL I'm attempting to draw a primitive map of my campus.
Can anyone explain to me how panning, zooming and rotating is usually implemented?
For example, with panning and zooming, is that simply me adjusting my viewport? So I plot and draw all my lines that compose my map, and then as the user clicks and drags it adjusts my viewport?
For panning, does it shift the x/y values of my viewport and for zooming does it increase/decrease my viewport by some amount? What about for rotation?
For rotation, do I have to do affine transforms for each polyline that represents my campus map? Won't this be expensive to do on the fly on a decent sized map?
Or, is the viewport left the same and panning/zooming/rotation is done in some otherway?
For example, if you go to this link you'll see him describe panning and zooming exactly how I have above, by modifying the viewport.
Is this not correct?
They're achieved by applying a series of glTranslate, glRotate commands (that represent camera position and orientation) before drawing the scene. (technically, you're rotating the whole scene!)
There are utility functions like gluLookAt which sorta abstract some details about this.
To simplyify things, assume you have two vectors representing your camera: position and direction.
gluLookAt takes the position, destination, and up vector.
If you implement a vector class, destinaion = position + direction should give you a destination point.
Again to make things simple, you can assume the up vector to always be (0,1,0)
Then, before rendering anything in your scene, load the identity matrix and call gluLookAt
glMatrixMode(GL_MODELVIEW);
glLoadIdentity();
gluLookAt( source.x, source.y, source.z, destination.x, destination.y, destination.z, 0, 1, 0 );
Then start drawing your objects
You can let the user span by changing the position slightly to the right or to the left. Rotation is a bit more complicated as you have to rotate the direction vector. Assuming that what you're rotating is the camera, not some object in the scene.
One problem is, if you only have a direction vector "forward" how do you move it? where is the right and left?
My approach in this case is to just take the cross product of "direction" and (0,1,0).
Now you can move the camera to the left and to the right using something like:
position = position + right * amount; //amount < 0 moves to the left
You can move forward using the "direction vector", but IMO it's better to restrict movement to a horizontal plane, so get the forward vector the same way we got the right vector:
forward = cross( up, right )
To be honest, this is somewhat of a hackish approach.
The proper approach is to use a more "sophisticated" data structure to represent the "orientation" of the camera, not just the forward direction. However, since you're just starting out, it's good to take things one step at a time.
All of these "actions" can be achieved using model-view matrix transformation functions. You should read about glTranslatef (panning), glScalef (zoom), glRotatef (rotation). You also should need to read some basic tutorial about OpenGL, you might find this link useful.
Generally there are three steps that are applied whenever you reference any point in 3d space within opengl.
Given a Local point
Local -> World Transform
World -> Camera Transform
Camera -> Screen Transform (usually a projection. depends on if you're using perspective or orthogonal)
Each of these transforms is taking your 3d point, and multiplying by a matrix.
When you are rotating the camera, it is generally changing the world -> camera transform by multiplying the transform matrix by your rotation/pan/zoom affine transformation. Since all of your points are re-rendered each frame, the new matrix gets applied to your points, and it gives the appearance of a rotation.